you make some good points however ten to fifteen years is way too far down the road... I believe in a long term investment too, but let's be realistic... 2 years tops!! additionally vape definitely does not come out with a PR at least once a week!!! p.r.'s/instagram are different... the last 2 p.r.'s were regarding August 20th quarterly earnings and a advertisement about new glass products... 2 press releases in last 5 weeks... Vape has bottomed out... right along with the rest of the sector... the next 3 months = big move$