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StephanieVanbryce

08/03/14 5:01 PM

#226524 RE: oldberkeley #226523

Israel does have a right to defend their country.

somehow you appear to think I disagree with that, I do not.

What I disagree with is the collective punishment. Let's see now, First it was three teens that "Hamas" killed .. . that sent Israel rushing in to begin their second? third killing fest? .. .that info turned out to be not true .. so then they found the tunnels, which enable Palestinians to go into Egypt ohh maybe once every 10 years or so, to pick up stuff? I know the rockets get on peoples nerves .. . but, I'm sorry, as sophisticated as I know Israel is with all their weaponry and precision hot shot soldiers, somehow I would think that they could sort of you know ... pinpoint the location that those 'rockets' are coming from? ...with their planes, bombs, drones etc.. couldn't they use them on whoever is doing it AND destroy ALL the rocket launchers? . .and heck, maybe even follow some of them home and then blow them into smithereens.. what do you think? ...gee... I'm still wondering if they ever 'got'/'killed'/'beat up' ... the guy they 'thought' killed the teens... oh well... .. next time.

I am not united at all with any people who want to make a genocide... I want Israel to be the best that it can be and to stop killing the innocent children .. and that is a lie and a myth that Hamas uses its children as cover.. . Israel has a ton of lies and myths ... let's face it! When you have everyone in the world (just about) .. to have to preface everything they say with the 'ridiculous' " Israel has the right to defend itself" .. .. there's something very very wrong... just because the most horrid things (ovens, nazis..dr.s experimenting etc.. ) happened to them and terrorized them for life, I guess ... doesn't mean that they also get the right to ethnically cleanse another group of peoples ...Stop killing families, period. Talk, stop the Apartheid! The majority of the dead are families.

SoxFan

08/03/14 5:54 PM

#226527 RE: oldberkeley #226523

I couldn't disagree with you more about Israel. They have been systematically eliminating the Palestinians from Israel since 1947. What they have done in the West Bank is atrocious. Whether it be Hamas or Palestinians themselves they have a right to have a better life and I see what Israel is doing is nothing more than a more civil Warsaw Ghetto in Gaza. What Hamas is doing is feckless and has little effect in the everyday life other than inconvenience on Israeli's. One cannot say that about real savagery and destruction that Israel is inflicting on Gaza.

fuagf

08/03/14 8:13 PM

#226549 RE: oldberkeley #226523

and death from Gaza rockets historical total 30 .. this time one is the last i saw, not sure ..

Total fatalities in the history of rocket and mortar attacks from Gaza into Israel: 30
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/rocket-deaths-israel.html
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oldberkeley, take your point about googling, lol, often i wish i could write as much as well as so many others here, just some escapes
recall sometimes .. anyway .. the extent of the illegal settlements and the the fatality imbalance as noted by the 30 figure above
(not sure if it could 31 or even 32 now) .. and the wide media description of Israel as the only democracy in the middle East, ..

Religion, zionism and secularism - Ehud Ein-Gil
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=104709693

one of a number on the board, is a bit of a stretch .. so, the imbalance in numbers of conflict death, the extent of the illegal settlements on Palestinian
land and a widespread lack of understanding re the nature of Israel's democracy .. do those factors weigh on your Israel position, much at all?

See also:

Israel's Blood-Soaked Hypocrisy
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=104164190

Hamas and Israel's "Right to Exist" .. YT Insert:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=62518789

Israel’s soft stance on incitement [by own within] creates tragedy
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=104071754
.. those three also linked bottom here .. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=104243341