Replies to post #4748 on Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[DARBES]

deleted...this furschlugginer board does not handle as smoothly as those on SI.

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DARBES

[DARBES]

(edit) re: "yamhilL is the future, that's why wE are skipping Athlon64"

If theY say this, theY will also have to admit that there will be no Microsoft operating system for iT.

re: "This scenerio would be quite a battle"

I suspect that it would be more like a cap pistol shoot out.

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DARBES

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expect Intel's FUD campaign to be don't invest (develope, buy) AMD64, it won't be compatible with Yamhill.

My feeling is that this would only work if the FUD starts soon--by Christmas at most--with actual shipping chips not more than 6 months later than that. More than a year and it starts to strain credibility, with more and more of the target market already validating/purchasing Hammers, along with more and more software support. The thing that gives me hope here is how easy it is, by all reports, to port to AMD64. There will be little reason not to for many software houses, and competition will force the holdouts to come around. And the classic FUD scenario is big megacorporation vs. dinky startup. AMD supplies a significant portion of the market, and its prestige has been increasing since the Athlon days. I'm not sure how effective a FUD-style campaign can be for that reason at least.

On the Intel side, the thing I'll be keeping my eye on is Itanium. Any signs of wavering committment, marketing changes, loss of any OEM support, etc. would all be possible Yamhill tracks.

But I'd be interested in your--or anyone else's--opinion on how long (and what) it will take for AMD64 to become entrenched and Yamhill-proof.

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sgolds re: ...expect Intel's FUD campaign to be don't invest (develope, buy) AMD64

Exactly.

Could be like this?
What Hans de Vries discovered looking at Prescott's die should be enough to run some 64-bit demo with this Chip at launch. (but nothing more at all). Doing that, maybe this message will be delivered at the Prescott-launchtime:

Although Prescott is 64-bit capable we continue to be believe 64-bit computing for desktop-PCs adresses a problem that does not exist yet and for a while to come, but rising problems still to be solved within the next couple of years. Therefore we deliver proven and reliable 32-bit-technology with our new product with leading-edge performance, enhancing..etc.

K.