Wbmw:
Wow, for someone who prides themselves on intellectual honesty (the first words out of his mouth), this guy is anything but.
His entire response makes it seem like NGMA is a K8 clone, but without the integrated memory controller. He totally attributes energy efficiency as an AMD innovation (hello, TMTA?, not to mention Pentium M), and even goes as far as calling predictive branching, large buffers, and wide pipelining as K8 attributes that NGMA is copying (the point being that Banias launched with many of these things before K8 even hit the market).
You are being dishonest here. K7 had some of those things and came out before Banias and there was K6-3 which had an even better branch predictor than Banias, P4, Dothan and now NGMA.
The guy does not deny Intel's performance claims, but calls them pretentious; obviously, when you are AMD, you don't want to see your competitor wipe the floor with your offering, but the most that Henri Richard is willing to recognize is that Intel has caught up by copying AMD's design, copying their initiatives, but still lacks anything that can be called next generation.
Yeah, very generous (sour grapes) from AMD. I guess we'll see in a few months whether Intel's "K8 Clone / Quick Fix" product can outperform AMD's best response. If so, this guy is going to be eating a lot of crow.
Yet he has seen AMD's future products. You haven't. NGMA still has parts of P3 in it. The 411 decoder, now 4111 still can't decode more than one complex instruction per cycle. And if the next instruction is simple, can't even decode 1 complex instruction in a given cycle. K8 can do three in any given cycle. It makes it an all around performer on widely varying code.
And then AMD can do things not anticipated by you. In a few quarters, Conroe may come out to be a YAWN! Yet Another Wan Nabe like Prescott, Tejas, RDRAM and i820. Talk is cheap, its the meeting of the hype that is hard. Intel has failed to meet the hype so many times in the past. And even when the design comes close to meeting the hype, they can't produce it in enough volume at the hyped speeds. Look at Core Duo aka Yonah. According to Rahul, its "impossible to get". This from a supposed well oiled fabbing giant. Who is to say that they may have production problems with Conroe too. You not only need to have a good design, you need to make large quantities of them. Failure to do either leads to big problems.
AMD has proven that they can make large quantities of top performance product and they continue to do so. All I'm telling Intel is to show me. They haven't yet. You OTOH continue to be wrong!
Pete
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