LOL ..... I was just joking with him ...... hahaha thanks for sharing your story, ebaykamel and let's keep looking for a broker that allows us to short Pinkies ....... LOL we will definitely make a bundle once we find them ! even MMs do not sell "short" a Pinkie they sell shares to us that they do not have, in order to provide liquidity ( That's how I would understand what MMs do with BBs and Pinkies ) be well my friend