Tornado Alley (PROG)

[StephanieVanbryce]

This is worth the read .. from Greg Sargent.. he doesn't think she will run either, BUT, she did give this huge speech at the Roosevelt Institute, which could be a marker and she most definitely goes further than either Obama has ever hoped too .. and Hillary ... no doubt, I just gotta wonder if it would be possible to accomplish ... my opinion . .sorry, it's the same as Obama & Hillary .. why? ... because I've seen that IF you don't have decent cooperation within both houses.. .. you'll have to learn to be like Obama ... and still smile .. NOT POUT! ... all those plans ........further the same guy, David Dayen, who supported Obama and then turned on him when he was only writing for the firdoglake blog ... What makes him think that GRAND Ideas translate into realities ? If we can't take back the congress or at least get better repubs elected .. FDR, JFK, LBJ. .(LBJ, maybe not, he knew how to twist arms, loved that man.. yes, vietnam).. David Dayen will maybe learn along with norm... that NO ONE . .can just walk up the hill and get things done ...like a king and a kings magic would.. NO ONE! .. .. here's greg's - http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/11/12/elizabeth-warren-and-the-future-of-the-democratic-party/

basically .. it's just everyone thinking .. ;) I will tell you though If I was Hillary and I saw all this crap AND saw the 'republican congress .. hmmm mmm I'd wait until after the 2014 elections before I made up my mind ... . she'd still have time .. ... but of course . .then I'm not sure we would win, like your observation, could we win? .. ... and no matter what anyone says.. THAT is what counts, It's DEMS winning...We don't have to become like the teabaggers and begin to give all our dems purity tests and then primary them all, we tried that, it doesn't seem to work so good .. NOT all but 'most' blue dog dems support legislature that liberals and middle of the road dems do .. There vote is there ! .. even when it's going to hurt them . .(healthcare) .. except for a few. .So makes any other kind of win .. .. just not an option ... It's US .. all the way.. and YES, I remember you telling us your plans for Barack Obama (scotus) .. and at that time .. I sure thought it was a great idea and I still think so .. IF he doesn't 'just want to have fun' .. lol . .but a straight diet of fun ... gets to be not so fun without these healthy and challenging work products ... so... hmmm. ... ;)

one more thing.. the Black community would turn against us.. they have already talked about it .. and not for only that issue .. .others .. from the beginning .. .emanating from so-called progressives .. FDL .. started it .. immediately when Obama couldn't get the republicans and some influential democrats to back closing Guantanamo.. . then of course . .NO public option ..yada yada .. .. as Shakes says .... blah blah/fart ... ;)