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Thursday, 07/18/2013 2:31:44 PM

Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:31:44 PM

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You must have had some terrible childhood to hate so much and know so little.

While there are exceptions, do you realize the GOOD that most non-profit organizations do while the waste of gov't aid is MASSIVE?

Read something, and learn:

http://www.american.com/archive/2008/march-april-magazine-contents/a-nation-of-givers

Bet you can't make it through the article, because it debunks most of the liberal garbage you spew.

Just a few snippets:

1. About a third of individual gifts go toward sacramental activities, primarily supporting houses of worship. The rest goes to secular activities, such as education, health, and social welfare.

2. No developed country approaches American giving.

3. . . . we can estimate that this represents foregone income tax revenues—and hence a government subsidy to nonprofit organizations—of about $37.2 billion.

4. Still, tax deductibility is actually irrelevant for most people. IRS records show that only about a third of people who file tax returns itemize their deductions—which means that most Americans (particularly middle- and lower-income citizens) don’t even claim the deductions to which they are entitled. Even among households earning over $120,000 per year, only about 40 percent itemize their deductions. Furthermore, research shows that virtually no one is motivated meaningfully to give only because of our tax system.

5. . . . people who give away their time and money to established charities are far more likely than non-givers to act generously in informal ways as well.

7. In the year 2000, “religious” people (the 33 percent of the population who attend their houses of worship at least once per week) were 25 percentage points more likely to give charitably than “secularists” (the 27 percent who attend less than a few times per year, or have no religion). They were also 23 percentage points more likely to volunteer. When considering the average dollar amounts of money donated and time volunteered, the gap between the groups increases even further: religious people gave nearly four times more dollars per year, on average, than secularists ($2,210 versus $642). They also volunteered more than twice as often (12 times per year, versus 5.8 times).

8. These enormous differences are not a simple artifact of religious people giving to their churches. Religious people are more charitable with secular causes, too. For example, in 2000, religious people were 10 percentage points more likely than secularists to give money to explicitly nonreligious charities, and 21 points more likely to volunteer. The value of the average religious household’s gifts to nonreligious charities was 14 percent higher than that of the average secular household, even after correcting for income differences.

Religious people were also far more likely than secularists to give in informal, nonreligious ways. For example, in 2000, people belonging to religious congregations gave 46 percent more money to family and friends than people who did not belong. In 2002, religious people were far more likely to donate blood than secularists, to give food or money to a homeless person, and even to return change mistakenly given them by a cashier.

9. The fact is that self-described “conservatives” in America are more likely to give—and give more money—than self-described “liberals.” In the year 2000, households headed by a conservative gave, on average, 30 percent more dollars to charity than households headed by a liberal. And this discrepancy in monetary donations is not simply an artifact of income differences. On the contrary, liberal families in these data earned an average of 6 percent more per year than conservative families.

10. About 80 percent of American liberals say they think the government should “do more” to reduce income inequality, versus just 27 percent of American conservatives. NOTE -- the conservatives are already GIVING, so when liberals want to FORCE everyone to "take care of the poor," they are really forcing themselves, because they are the ones NOT already giving.

11. In sum, if we substituted our private charitable giving for government redistributive programs, we would pay a price in terms of economic growth, personal prosperity, and even happiness. Charitable giving should be seen not just as a nice detail about American life, and even less as a mere tax deduction.


By the way -- that massive government subsidy to nonprofit organizations — of about $37.2 billion -- due to being tax deductible . . . how do you think that compares to gov't wastes of working American's money stolen from them each year?

Once again, you are trying for the role as most clueless liberal on IHUB. Congratulations.

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