Wooo Ken, That really does illustrate your point dramatically. Also it shows me were I went wrong LOL. Was well ahead this time last year after getting back into trading after years of absence. Seems the rest of the year I was walking backwards. Times have changed with the tech tremendously. Think at last I might be getting TA sorted a little. hopefully at least recognising entry and exit but still need help and reassurance. Thanks again will pop over and check you site out. GTE is having its best day to date !