I will try to get the info from Mr Bonigiovanni, Eddie wasnt avail. i tried him last night, I dont know why they keep making thses promises then not coming through then shaking it off like nothing has happend, In my opinion they look at us as thorns in their side , or the red headed step child that no one wants but has to deal with, Calling and annoying them just adds to that I feel. They will file showing 147k cash flow. why they are late I dont know. When i talked to Eddie the night before the 30th he said they were on the phones with Mike Bongiovanni and that 20-f was being worked and that it was good to go. makes no damn sense. this is why I am tring to plan a trip to go there the only way to get answers is to confront them face to face. it would be helpful to have allied shareholders that live in Hong kong to give us information but i dont see that happening. Its really expensive to go to China but I guess its gotta be done. I wont go alone I will try to get a small group to go with me but we'll see. I will call the auditor to see what is up.