Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:06:26 PM
This Ronald Mason page is very inspiring…
Due to the Assumption that he did a couple of Web pages for Eric, I started to dig a little into some of his Projects.
First SPAG.OB http://www.spartangoldltd.com/
Spartan is a Sub of Sphere Resources Inc. TSX Venture Exchange (NEX – SPH.H) http://www.sphereresources.com
Sphere Resources Inc. is a Canadian based minerals company with gold exploration and development activity centered in the Red Lake township of northwestern Ontario, Canada as well as the Carlin trend and the Northumberland trend of Nevada, USA. These superior gold camps of North America are endowed with world class mineral deposits. Having had previous success as an explorer and developer of gold assets in Asia and Africa, Sphere’s new direction is to find major gold deposits in the leading gold camps of North America and use an innovative approach to reduce the time and cost to market by using deep resolution IP technology continually while drilling to achieve success.
Sphere’s commitment to asset growth and increased shareholder value will be sustained by the development of highly prospective projects, accelerated exploration activities and the acquisition of viable resources.
Sphere has a select international board of directors with combined experience of more than 90 years in undertaking exploration, development and funding of numerous energy and minerals projects in developed and developing countries.
Sphere Resources has investments of 6,000,000 shares in Duncan Park Holdings Inc ( TSX-V: DPH ) and also controls 53.46% of Spartan Gold Ltd ( OTCBB: SPAG )
Sphere Resources Inc. is a publicly listed company on the Toronto Stock Exchange (TSX- V; NEX: SPH.H)
Spartan Gold was already promoted back in 2011 by a few Promoters:
http://newsletter.hotstocked.com/stocks/view/SPAG-SPAR-GOLD
but nothing big so far, still a possible candidate for something bigger imo.
Investor Relations:
Mr. Seth Shaw
From the 10K http://sec.edgar-online.com/spartan-gold-ltd/10-k-annual-report/2011/03/02/section32.aspx
(9)
Shares include 10,400,000 shares in the name of Seth M. Shaw and 4,130,000 shares held by Green Eagle Capital Corp. Mr. Shaw is the sole officer and director of Green Eagle Capital Corp. The address of Seth M. Shaw is 27 Edward Rd., Hopewell Junction, NY 12533.
Another listed Owner of Shares is/was Canton Investments Ltd. (4) Common Stock 14,866,400 6.95 %
Canton Investment Ltd recently became the new Owner of PRDCD (formerly CDVV)
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/120112/cdvv10-k.html
On July 23, 2010, the Company experienced a change in control. Canton Investments Ltd ("CIL") acquired a majority of the issued and outstanding common stock of the Company in accordance with stock purchase agreements by and between CIL and Wireless One International Limited (Wireless One"), Bing HE and Ning HE, the Company's former directors, and other various shareholders. On the closing date, July 23, 2010, pursuant to the terms of the Stock Purchase Agreement, CIL purchased from Wireless One and Bing HE and Ning HE 11,500,000 shares of the Company's outstanding common stock for $205,750. Also on July 23, 2010, CIL purchased 2,440,000 shares of the Company's outstanding common stock for $36,600 from various shareholders. As a result of the change in control, CIL owns a total of 13,940,000 shares of the Company's common stock representing 91.54%.
PRDCD is one to watch since Canton ltd just performed a 100:1 forward split
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/china-digital-announces-company-namesymbol-change-to-paradigm-resource-management-corporation-otcbb-prdc-and-stock-split-161085025.html
On June 22, 2012, the Company had approximately 15 million shares outstanding. As a result of the hundred-for-one stock split, Paradigm Resource now has approximately 1.5 billion shares outstanding. Upon completion of the stock split, 1.25 billion shares will be canceled and the share capital will consist of approximately 250 million ordinary shares.
In due course, Paradigm Resource plans to make further announcements of a new management team along with a new revised corporate website.
CONTACT
Robert M. Price, Director
(202) 536-5191
ABOUT PARADIGM RESOURCE
Paradigm Resource Management Corporation (formerly China Digital Ventures Corporation), is a publicly traded U.S. based junior exploration and mining company headquartered in Rockville, Maryland. The Company is currently pursuing opportunities for several acquisition targets focusing on operational plans for current projects across the trans-pacific regions. Paradigm Resource's commitment to asset growth and increased shareholder value will be sustained by the development of highly prospective projects, accelerated exploration activities and the acquisition of viable resources.
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But let’s continue with the Pages from the Mason Galery…
Novo Energies (NVNC.OB)
TheOxofWallstreet.com has recieved the following compensation on the following companies for a profile of their company to date:
NVNC - $150,000 for a one week profile.
http://thecollecktor.hubpages.com/hub/Penny-stock-investing-tips-be-sure-to-read-the-disclaimer
Company has now changed into Immunovative Inc.
IMUN.OB Intro Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0AUJ1dSXss
http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/IMUN.OB/key-developments/article/2326350
Both Co’s (Novo and Imun) are listed in Masons’s Gallery…
http://www.imun.com/ to come online soon
The Signup page links to : statsmedia.createsend.com
StatsMedia.com http://www.statsmedia.com/
From http://www.linkedin.com/in/masonronald
Creative Director for DealLife inc. (interesting since the Domain was linked directly to Eric Nguyen here: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=77117937 )
a lifestyle marketing service, providing exclusive offers from quality brands directly to quality customers.
Co-Founder & Former Creative Director at Mason & Mesli inc, an internet marketing agency based in Montreal (Canada) which provides Internet Marketing Strategies, Investor Relation and Web Development Solutions for companies seeking Investor Awareness and growth.
Founder / Managing Director of StatsMEDIA.com, a perfect combination between a design house and a web marketing agency, providing highly energized and success driven strategies and design
My Services include
• Web Design
• Graphic Design
• Search Engine Optimization
• Corporate Video Production
• Product Photography
Ronald A. Mason
(514) 625-3546
Specialties: Graphic Design, Web Design & Development, Branding, Internet Marketing, Search Engine Optimization, Web-Video Production.
StatsMEDIA is a Visual Comunication Agency based in Montreal which provides Design, Video and Internet Marketing Strategies.
Services include:
Creating graphic & web design that cannot be overlooked
Video shooting, editing and Social Media awareness.
Web development
Targeting customers and directing traffic to their websites
Augmenting investor awareness, where applicable
Managing sophisticated online marketing campaigns
STATSMEDIA is a perfect combination between a design house and a web marketing agency, providing highly energized and success driven strategies and powerful design.
Createsend.com appears to be a Company http://www.campaignmonitor.com in Australia that is used for Email Campaigns and List Building.
Immunovative Inc.
IMUN Security Details
Share Structure
Market Value1 $12,697,834 a/o Jun 29, 2012
Shares Outstanding 97,675,646 a/o Feb 16, 2012
Float 6,500,000 a/o Jun 29, 2009
Authorized Shares 150,000,000 a/o Jun 29, 2009
Par Value 0.00001
Company Notes
• Formerly=Novo Energies Corp. until 5-2012
• Formerly=Atlantic Wine Agencies, Inc. until 6-2009
• Formerly=New England Acquisitions, Inc. until 2-04
About Immunovative, Inc.: On December 15, 2011, Immunovative, Inc. (“IMUN”) (then known as Novo Energies Corp.) signed an exclusive License Agreement (the "License Agreement") with Immunovative Therapies, Ltd (“ITL”). Under the terms of the License Agreement, IMUN has been granted an exclusive, worldwide license to commercialize any products covered under ITL's current issued and pending patent application portfolio, as well as the rights to any future patent applications, including improvements or modifications to the existing applications and any corresponding improvements or new versions of the existing products including.-
About Immunovative Therapies, Ltd.: Immunovative Therapies, Ltd. ("ITL") is an Israeli biopharmaceutical company that was founded in May 2004 with financial support from the Israel Office of the Chief Scientist. ITL specializes in the development of novel immunotherapy drug products that incorporate living immune cells as the active ingredients for treatment of cancer and infectious disease. ITL is developing a new class of immunotherapy drugs designed to harness the power of the immune system to treat cancer. ITL has two experimental immunotherapy products for the treatment of cancer in clinical development: AlloStimTM and AlloVaxTM covered by Immunovative's 10 U.S. patents granted, 15 U.S. patents pending and 26 corresponding applications pending internationally. Please visit ITL's website at: www.immunovative.co.il
Immunovative Press Release 21-03-2012 (has the WOW Effect for sure) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEhK1aRqH5s&feature=relmfu
Both SPAG and NVNC/IMUN do list another similarity: Green Eagle Capital Corp (already listed in old Spongetech lists: http://spngbane.angelfire.com/ ) but also in a Nasdaq Co LTBR http://www.ltbridge.com/
here the related filing http://www.investorpoint.com/stock/LTBR-Lightbridge%20Corporation./insider/GREEN%20EAGLE%20CAPITAL%20CORP/Proposed%20Sale%20%28Form%20144%29/
Company Notes
• Formerly=Thorium Power, Ltd. until 9-2009
• Formerly=Novastar Resources, Ltd. until 10-06
• Formerly=Custom Branded Networks, Inc. until 5-05
• Formerly=Aquistar Ventures (USA) Inc. until 6-01
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Novastar+Resources+Completes+$15,000,000+Private+Placement+With...-a0145327373
CONTACT: Mr. Seth Shaw, Director of Strategic Planning of Novastar Resources
On July 11, 2011, Green Eagle Capital Corp., as principal agent for a group of investors, converted the secured convertible debenture into 10,000,000 shares of Novo’s common stock.
Here’s the Agreement: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/85108488/Conversion-Agreement---NOVO-ENERGIES-CORP---7-14-2011
CEO is Mr. Antonio Treminio
Mr. Antonio Treminio has been Interim President of Luna Technologies International Inc. since February 07, 2007. Mr. Treminio has been the Chief Executive Officer and Chief Financial Officer of Atlantic Wine Agencies Inc. since October 10, 2008 serves as its Acting Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer and Secretary. Since 2003, Mr. Treminio has been the President of Lusierna Asset Management Ltd. He leads Luna Technologies in restructuring its affairs by locating a strategic acquisition candidate for the benefit of shareholder value. Mr. Treminio has been a successful investor and entrepreneur in public and private companies and has often served to act as a guiding force behind these companies by expressing and executing a vision to create shareholder value. With a record of accomplishment in structuring equity transactions and leveraged buy-outs, Mr. Treminio has a unique blend of transactional as well as human relations skills and considerable business contacts and expertise. Mr. Treminio served as Interim Chief Executive Officer of Luna Technologies International Inc. since February 07, 2007. He served as the President of Novo Energies Corp. He served as Vice President of Operations at Luna Technologies International Inc. since July 01, 2006. He started his professional career with Midland Walwyn. Mr. Treminio accepted an offer by Dean, Witter, Reynolds in 1993, he moved to the United States to further his career, while focusing on establishing alliances and referral agreements with top tier Latin American financial institutions. In 1995, he joined PaineWebber to further his career while focusing on establishing Strategic Alliances and/or Referral Agreements with top-tier Latin American financial institutions. He serves as Chairman of Atlantic Wine Agencies Inc. and has been its Director since October 10, 2008. He serves as a Director of International Plastics Corp. (NEI). He serves as a Member of the Knights of Malta, Sovereign order of St. Johns. He is a humanitarian and philanthropist. Mr. Treminio attended his studies in Business Administration at Loyalist College in Belleville, Ontario in 1993.
More here: http://www.linkedin.com/in/antoniotreminio
Per the SPAG’s 10K he own Shares in SPAG as well :
(8) Shares include 10,444,320 shares in the name of Antonio Treminio and 6,000,000 shares held by Lusierna Asset Management LTD. Mr. Treminio is the President and sole director of Lusierna Asset Management LTD. The address of Antonio Treminio is 750 Cote De Place D'Arms, Suite 64, Montreal, QE., Canada.
Just check the SEC Filings for Companies he’s or was somehow related to : http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/PeopleFilingResults.aspx?PersonID=3254555&PersonName=ANTONIO%20TREMINIO
I'd bet there’s more to find, but who knows maybe the Companies above are all real and these are the Life Changer’s everybody is trying to find
It would be a real shame if IMUN.OB becomes a P&D kind of thing since the Israeli Co seems to work on something real, but you never now in Pennyland…
Due to the Assumption that he did a couple of Web pages for Eric, I started to dig a little into some of his Projects.
First SPAG.OB http://www.spartangoldltd.com/
Spartan is a Sub of Sphere Resources Inc. TSX Venture Exchange (NEX – SPH.H) http://www.sphereresources.com
Sphere Resources Inc. is a Canadian based minerals company with gold exploration and development activity centered in the Red Lake township of northwestern Ontario, Canada as well as the Carlin trend and the Northumberland trend of Nevada, USA. These superior gold camps of North America are endowed with world class mineral deposits. Having had previous success as an explorer and developer of gold assets in Asia and Africa, Sphere’s new direction is to find major gold deposits in the leading gold camps of North America and use an innovative approach to reduce the time and cost to market by using deep resolution IP technology continually while drilling to achieve success.
Sphere’s commitment to asset growth and increased shareholder value will be sustained by the development of highly prospective projects, accelerated exploration activities and the acquisition of viable resources.
Sphere has a select international board of directors with combined experience of more than 90 years in undertaking exploration, development and funding of numerous energy and minerals projects in developed and developing countries.
Sphere Resources has investments of 6,000,000 shares in Duncan Park Holdings Inc ( TSX-V: DPH ) and also controls 53.46% of Spartan Gold Ltd ( OTCBB: SPAG )
Sphere Resources Inc. is a publicly listed company on the Toronto Stock Exchange (TSX- V; NEX: SPH.H)
Spartan Gold was already promoted back in 2011 by a few Promoters:
http://newsletter.hotstocked.com/stocks/view/SPAG-SPAR-GOLD
but nothing big so far, still a possible candidate for something bigger imo.
Investor Relations:
Mr. Seth Shaw
From the 10K http://sec.edgar-online.com/spartan-gold-ltd/10-k-annual-report/2011/03/02/section32.aspx
(9)
Shares include 10,400,000 shares in the name of Seth M. Shaw and 4,130,000 shares held by Green Eagle Capital Corp. Mr. Shaw is the sole officer and director of Green Eagle Capital Corp. The address of Seth M. Shaw is 27 Edward Rd., Hopewell Junction, NY 12533.
Another listed Owner of Shares is/was Canton Investments Ltd. (4) Common Stock 14,866,400 6.95 %
Canton Investment Ltd recently became the new Owner of PRDCD (formerly CDVV)
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/120112/cdvv10-k.html
On July 23, 2010, the Company experienced a change in control. Canton Investments Ltd ("CIL") acquired a majority of the issued and outstanding common stock of the Company in accordance with stock purchase agreements by and between CIL and Wireless One International Limited (Wireless One"), Bing HE and Ning HE, the Company's former directors, and other various shareholders. On the closing date, July 23, 2010, pursuant to the terms of the Stock Purchase Agreement, CIL purchased from Wireless One and Bing HE and Ning HE 11,500,000 shares of the Company's outstanding common stock for $205,750. Also on July 23, 2010, CIL purchased 2,440,000 shares of the Company's outstanding common stock for $36,600 from various shareholders. As a result of the change in control, CIL owns a total of 13,940,000 shares of the Company's common stock representing 91.54%.
PRDCD is one to watch since Canton ltd just performed a 100:1 forward split
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/china-digital-announces-company-namesymbol-change-to-paradigm-resource-management-corporation-otcbb-prdc-and-stock-split-161085025.html
On June 22, 2012, the Company had approximately 15 million shares outstanding. As a result of the hundred-for-one stock split, Paradigm Resource now has approximately 1.5 billion shares outstanding. Upon completion of the stock split, 1.25 billion shares will be canceled and the share capital will consist of approximately 250 million ordinary shares.
In due course, Paradigm Resource plans to make further announcements of a new management team along with a new revised corporate website.
CONTACT
Robert M. Price, Director
(202) 536-5191
ABOUT PARADIGM RESOURCE
Paradigm Resource Management Corporation (formerly China Digital Ventures Corporation), is a publicly traded U.S. based junior exploration and mining company headquartered in Rockville, Maryland. The Company is currently pursuing opportunities for several acquisition targets focusing on operational plans for current projects across the trans-pacific regions. Paradigm Resource's commitment to asset growth and increased shareholder value will be sustained by the development of highly prospective projects, accelerated exploration activities and the acquisition of viable resources.
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But let’s continue with the Pages from the Mason Galery…
Novo Energies (NVNC.OB)
TheOxofWallstreet.com has recieved the following compensation on the following companies for a profile of their company to date:
NVNC - $150,000 for a one week profile.
http://thecollecktor.hubpages.com/hub/Penny-stock-investing-tips-be-sure-to-read-the-disclaimer
Company has now changed into Immunovative Inc.
IMUN.OB Intro Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0AUJ1dSXss
http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/IMUN.OB/key-developments/article/2326350
Both Co’s (Novo and Imun) are listed in Masons’s Gallery…
http://www.imun.com/ to come online soon
The Signup page links to : statsmedia.createsend.com
StatsMedia.com http://www.statsmedia.com/
From http://www.linkedin.com/in/masonronald
Creative Director for DealLife inc. (interesting since the Domain was linked directly to Eric Nguyen here: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=77117937 )
a lifestyle marketing service, providing exclusive offers from quality brands directly to quality customers.
Co-Founder & Former Creative Director at Mason & Mesli inc, an internet marketing agency based in Montreal (Canada) which provides Internet Marketing Strategies, Investor Relation and Web Development Solutions for companies seeking Investor Awareness and growth.
Founder / Managing Director of StatsMEDIA.com, a perfect combination between a design house and a web marketing agency, providing highly energized and success driven strategies and design
My Services include
• Web Design
• Graphic Design
• Search Engine Optimization
• Corporate Video Production
• Product Photography
Ronald A. Mason
(514) 625-3546
Specialties: Graphic Design, Web Design & Development, Branding, Internet Marketing, Search Engine Optimization, Web-Video Production.
StatsMEDIA is a Visual Comunication Agency based in Montreal which provides Design, Video and Internet Marketing Strategies.
Services include:
Creating graphic & web design that cannot be overlooked
Video shooting, editing and Social Media awareness.
Web development
Targeting customers and directing traffic to their websites
Augmenting investor awareness, where applicable
Managing sophisticated online marketing campaigns
STATSMEDIA is a perfect combination between a design house and a web marketing agency, providing highly energized and success driven strategies and powerful design.
Createsend.com appears to be a Company http://www.campaignmonitor.com in Australia that is used for Email Campaigns and List Building.
Immunovative Inc.
IMUN Security Details
Share Structure
Market Value1 $12,697,834 a/o Jun 29, 2012
Shares Outstanding 97,675,646 a/o Feb 16, 2012
Float 6,500,000 a/o Jun 29, 2009
Authorized Shares 150,000,000 a/o Jun 29, 2009
Par Value 0.00001
Company Notes
• Formerly=Novo Energies Corp. until 5-2012
• Formerly=Atlantic Wine Agencies, Inc. until 6-2009
• Formerly=New England Acquisitions, Inc. until 2-04
About Immunovative, Inc.: On December 15, 2011, Immunovative, Inc. (“IMUN”) (then known as Novo Energies Corp.) signed an exclusive License Agreement (the "License Agreement") with Immunovative Therapies, Ltd (“ITL”). Under the terms of the License Agreement, IMUN has been granted an exclusive, worldwide license to commercialize any products covered under ITL's current issued and pending patent application portfolio, as well as the rights to any future patent applications, including improvements or modifications to the existing applications and any corresponding improvements or new versions of the existing products including.-
About Immunovative Therapies, Ltd.: Immunovative Therapies, Ltd. ("ITL") is an Israeli biopharmaceutical company that was founded in May 2004 with financial support from the Israel Office of the Chief Scientist. ITL specializes in the development of novel immunotherapy drug products that incorporate living immune cells as the active ingredients for treatment of cancer and infectious disease. ITL is developing a new class of immunotherapy drugs designed to harness the power of the immune system to treat cancer. ITL has two experimental immunotherapy products for the treatment of cancer in clinical development: AlloStimTM and AlloVaxTM covered by Immunovative's 10 U.S. patents granted, 15 U.S. patents pending and 26 corresponding applications pending internationally. Please visit ITL's website at: www.immunovative.co.il
Immunovative Press Release 21-03-2012 (has the WOW Effect for sure) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEhK1aRqH5s&feature=relmfu
Both SPAG and NVNC/IMUN do list another similarity: Green Eagle Capital Corp (already listed in old Spongetech lists: http://spngbane.angelfire.com/ ) but also in a Nasdaq Co LTBR http://www.ltbridge.com/
here the related filing http://www.investorpoint.com/stock/LTBR-Lightbridge%20Corporation./insider/GREEN%20EAGLE%20CAPITAL%20CORP/Proposed%20Sale%20%28Form%20144%29/
Company Notes
• Formerly=Thorium Power, Ltd. until 9-2009
• Formerly=Novastar Resources, Ltd. until 10-06
• Formerly=Custom Branded Networks, Inc. until 5-05
• Formerly=Aquistar Ventures (USA) Inc. until 6-01
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Novastar+Resources+Completes+$15,000,000+Private+Placement+With...-a0145327373
CONTACT: Mr. Seth Shaw, Director of Strategic Planning of Novastar Resources
On July 11, 2011, Green Eagle Capital Corp., as principal agent for a group of investors, converted the secured convertible debenture into 10,000,000 shares of Novo’s common stock.
Here’s the Agreement: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/85108488/Conversion-Agreement---NOVO-ENERGIES-CORP---7-14-2011
CEO is Mr. Antonio Treminio
Mr. Antonio Treminio has been Interim President of Luna Technologies International Inc. since February 07, 2007. Mr. Treminio has been the Chief Executive Officer and Chief Financial Officer of Atlantic Wine Agencies Inc. since October 10, 2008 serves as its Acting Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer and Secretary. Since 2003, Mr. Treminio has been the President of Lusierna Asset Management Ltd. He leads Luna Technologies in restructuring its affairs by locating a strategic acquisition candidate for the benefit of shareholder value. Mr. Treminio has been a successful investor and entrepreneur in public and private companies and has often served to act as a guiding force behind these companies by expressing and executing a vision to create shareholder value. With a record of accomplishment in structuring equity transactions and leveraged buy-outs, Mr. Treminio has a unique blend of transactional as well as human relations skills and considerable business contacts and expertise. Mr. Treminio served as Interim Chief Executive Officer of Luna Technologies International Inc. since February 07, 2007. He served as the President of Novo Energies Corp. He served as Vice President of Operations at Luna Technologies International Inc. since July 01, 2006. He started his professional career with Midland Walwyn. Mr. Treminio accepted an offer by Dean, Witter, Reynolds in 1993, he moved to the United States to further his career, while focusing on establishing alliances and referral agreements with top tier Latin American financial institutions. In 1995, he joined PaineWebber to further his career while focusing on establishing Strategic Alliances and/or Referral Agreements with top-tier Latin American financial institutions. He serves as Chairman of Atlantic Wine Agencies Inc. and has been its Director since October 10, 2008. He serves as a Director of International Plastics Corp. (NEI). He serves as a Member of the Knights of Malta, Sovereign order of St. Johns. He is a humanitarian and philanthropist. Mr. Treminio attended his studies in Business Administration at Loyalist College in Belleville, Ontario in 1993.
More here: http://www.linkedin.com/in/antoniotreminio
Per the SPAG’s 10K he own Shares in SPAG as well :
(8) Shares include 10,444,320 shares in the name of Antonio Treminio and 6,000,000 shares held by Lusierna Asset Management LTD. Mr. Treminio is the President and sole director of Lusierna Asset Management LTD. The address of Antonio Treminio is 750 Cote De Place D'Arms, Suite 64, Montreal, QE., Canada.
Just check the SEC Filings for Companies he’s or was somehow related to : http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/PeopleFilingResults.aspx?PersonID=3254555&PersonName=ANTONIO%20TREMINIO
I'd bet there’s more to find, but who knows maybe the Companies above are all real and these are the Life Changer’s everybody is trying to find
It would be a real shame if IMUN.OB becomes a P&D kind of thing since the Israeli Co seems to work on something real, but you never now in Pennyland…
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