<it almost sounds like you are trying to start a sell stampede> That's you trying to insinuate something. I was just stating an opinion. <Are you saying that VLCO is worth the fight> No I'm saying that people don't like to admit they're wrong and will toss good money after bad in order to keep their reputations clean. The fight is between people with money who got mad when they were blindsided. VLCO is secondary now to people who hate to lose at anything.