And, if we lose here, is a suit against WMI board outside of the bankruptcy an option. That's tacked on to Jared's question about an appeal. The last time we traded down to a penny we were far from over. When it's over this time, is it really over? Which reminds me of John Belushi, "Nothing is over until we say it's over. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no"