Ok thanks for reply, but another question if I can........just looking to understand these runners better :). As per this----> "https://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=jpBhFLgvC8hLw%252bYC43A8iw%253d%253d" there are 105M par share count. Question: How do we know that the company has not or is not selling shares at this time and the OS of 2.5M has not changed since 2005? Thanks Star