Bside There are more. In your 3rd link:::> <A HREF="http://www.onrglobal.navy.mil/reports/2002/2002-04-12KARI_Airship_program.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.onrglobal.navy.mil/reports/2002/2002-04-12KARI_Airship_program.pdf</A> <::: Did you notice the name of one of the authors ? I wonder if he is any relation to Vern ?