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Re: Santa Barbara Broker post# 88716

Sunday, 01/16/2011 9:30:35 AM

Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:30:35 AM

Post# of 103340
first one has to recognize that illegally manipulating
stock on the poorly watched OTC is imo the rule
not the exception

while i can only speak about the co.s i'm actually aware of based on
my own DD .. based on years .. in one case 7 .. another 4
but usually on avg 3 to 5 year's observations and ongoing DD

expo holdings is a legit co. .. but like *many* legit co.s
that came public via a r/m .. imo in a shell that was littered
with ftds' never cleaned up .. meaning the cycle of manipulation
is endemic from the start

i first looked at expo's trading via rt l2 as a favor to an ihub
friend (exph long) who asked me for my input back in the spring
of 2008

i saw the manipulation from the very first but it was no different
from other co.s i too knew to be legit .. which to me is a given
on the OTC regardless of whether the co. is fully transparent or not

as i've posted .. being a legit co. in no way assures said co.s survivability

now if the expectation is that expo's mgmt would be seasoned enough
from the start as a newly pubco to have knowledge of this inherent *manipulation*
i will strongly disagree .. that has not been my experience

hindsight is 20/20 .. and imo having spoken with more than a few
mgmts' over the past few years .. few expect their stock will be
preyed upon the moment it comes public .. which is exactly what
happens and is just one of the patterns easily discerned

==

there were 2 well orchestrated runs on exph in 2009 .. in between
those runs .. there were what i coined *curious* trades done
usually 4 to 6 ticks below what *exph was trading* (these trades
from memory ran about about 1/4 of the day's volume) think about
the money that was being done daily .. mini run .. short down
cover .. mini run .. short down .. cover .. and so it would go
for well over 2+ months on exph in 2009 b4 etc was successfully
launched on 9/15/2009

i posted about them in rt (real time) of course volume on exph
was running on avg 40M+ or so .. back from july to sept 2009
so they may have not been as noticeable to folks as they were
to me

again this was b4 the 2nd orchestrated run and my *awareness*
of exactly *who/which entity/s* were involved wasn't *known* then

==

bottom line is this .. if one doesn't believe that there is stock
manipulation on the OTC .. or against legit co.s
like expo holdings .. they aren't going to agree with my posts

i'm totally comfortable ~ from educating myself .. to calling
folks at the sec and finra .. to contacting compliance officers
at respective MMs' .. to filing complaints .. to talking to mgmt

btw .. there is no *simple* or easy explanation for this since
while there may be some *similarities* .. each co. and stock
will be handled differently .. it's why i keep asking of this
venue .. doesn't it strike others how odd after all those shares
pumped thru at .0001 .. that exph isn't no bid .. and many of us
haven't had our bids filled .. and the only ones who have are
those with ETRADE accounts?

but mostly how truly *erratic* the volume is and has been for
well over a year now .. unless there is a frenzy done (and there
have been 5 now since 11/29) .. there is no volume to speak of

funny how exph showed *short* data for the end of december
and even more *odd* was it was the highest shown for ALL of 2010
coming in a month when there were 2 record setting volume days
stock traded

lastly (well not really) .. i don't consider any of this *futile*
it's not pretty and as a sor i can understand folks' frustrations
re: the pps and even the SS .. which is just one of the reasons
i'm completely dispassionate about a co.s PPS and never base my
DD around it .. rather on what the co. is doing and whether they
can indeed survive

==
i fully expect mgmt will give full transparency starting with
BOD appointments


i look forward to exph having its first ever content driven run

and depending on who the new ceo is and *intent* going forward
where ETC is concerned .. i have hopes the co. is taken private
regardless of what is on offer out of current mgmt .. who flat
out refute my speculation .. which is exactly what i'd do in
their shoes

my posts are my opinion based on MY DD and i have zero
expectations of changing mindsets .. what i am interested in
is seeing what is revealed and when by mgmt .. and then
discussing those events in this venue in due course

i look forward to what is known and shown based on facts

==
4kids
all jmo





10/5/07 -- there are no coincidences here ...
oh and like many other longs .. not selling at this level --