Hi Wildman, From last November, see page 8.............. TCG and Palladium should not be discussed separately. <A HREF="http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ruedi/DownloadCultureLueneburg2004/DownloadCulture2004WeisTCandDRM.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ruedi/DownloadCultureLueneburg2004/DownloadCulture2004WeisTCandDRM.pdf</A>