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The Betty Boards


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This is a list of all known "Betty boards" as posted on Terrapin Station BBS
in Darion CT (no longer on-line).

Betty Cantor-Jackson Soundboards

Grateful Dead
02.18.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York
02.19.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York
02.20.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York
02.21.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York
02.23.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York
02.24.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York
04.05.71 Manhattan Center, New York City (End Of 2nd Set Only)
04.06.71 Manhattan Center, New York City
04.07.71 Boston Music Hall, Boston, Massachusetts
04.08.71 Boston Music Hall, Boston, Massachusetts
12.14.71 The Hill Auditorium, Ann Arbor, Michigan
05.04.72 The Olympia Theater, Paris, France
08.21.72 Berkeley Community Theater, Berkeley, California
08.22.72 Berkeley Community Theater, Berkeley, California
08.25.72 Berkeley Community Theater, Berkeley, California
08.27.72 Old Renaissance Faire Ground, Veneta, Oregon
03.16.73 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, Long Island, New York
03.21.73 Memorial Auditorium, Utica, New York
03.22.73 Memorial Auditorium, Utica, New York
03.24.73 Spectrum Arena, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
05.26.73 Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, California
06.22.73 Pacific High Exhibition Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
ca. Aug-early Sep 'WAKE OF THE FLOOD Studio Out-takes, San Rafael, CA
circa 1975 'REFLECTIONS' Studio Out-takes
06.10.76 The Boston Music Hall, Boston, Massachusetts
06.11.76 The Boston Music Hall, Boston, Massachusetts
06.14.76 The Beacon Theater, New York City
06.15.76 The Beacon Theater, New York City
06.29.76 The Auditorium Theatre, Chicago, Illinois
ca. Early 1977 Side Two Of 'TERRAPIN STATION'
02.26.77 The Swing Auditorium, San Bernadino, California
05.05.77 New Haven Coliseum, New Haven, Connecticut
05.07.77 Boston Gardens, Boston, Massachusetts
05.08.77 Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, New York
05.09.77 War Memorial Auditorium, Buffalo, New York
09.29.77 The Paramount Theater, Seattle, Washington
10.02.77 The Paramount Theater, Portland, Oregon
10.28.77 Soldiers & Sailors Memorial Hall, Kansas City, Missouri
10.29.77 Field House, Northern Illinois University, Dekalb, Illinois
10.30.77 Assembly Hall, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana
11.01.77 Cobo Hall, Detroit, Michigan
11.05.77 War Memorial, Rochester, New York (End Of Show)
11.06.77 Broome County Arena, Binghamton, New York
04.07.78 Hollywood Sportatorium, Hollywood, Florida
04.10.78 The Fox Theater, Atlanta, Georgia
04.11.78 The Fox Theater, Atlanta, Georgia
04.12.78 Cameroon Indoor Stadium, Duke University, Durham, North Carolina
04.14.78 Coliseum, Virginia Polytechnic, Blacksburg, Virginia
04.15.78 William And Mary College, Williamsburg, Virginia
07.07.78 Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison, Colorado
07.08.78 Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison, Colorado
10.18.78 Winterland, San Francisco, California ("From Egypt With Love")
04.22.79 Spartan Stadium, San Jose, California

Jerry Garcia Band
10.11.75 The Keystone, Berkeley, California (Second Set) (w/Nicky Hopkins
10.17.75 Concorde Pavilion, Concord, California (w/Nicky Hopkins)
12.17.75 The Keystone, Berkeley, California (w/Nicky Hopkins)
07.20.76 The Keystone, Berkeley, California
09.18.81 (Location Uncertain) (Rehearsal or Soundcheck) (The Jerry Garcia

Jerry Garcia
circa 1975 'REFLECTIONS' Studio Out-takes

Legion Of Mary
11.27.74 The Keystone, Berkeley, California
11.28.74 The Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, California
Various 1975 From 3.22, 5.22, 6.21, & 6.22.75 Keystone (except 3.22 - locatio

Reconstruction
03.07.79 Rancho Nicasio, San Rafael, California
03.08.79 Cotati Cabaret, Cotati, California
03.09.79 Cotati Cabaret, Cotati, California
04.08.79 Cotati Cabaret, Cotati, California
06.16.79 Keystone Palo Alto, Palo Alto, California
06.22.79 The Keystone, Berkeley, California
07.08.79 The Keystone, Berkeley, California

Garcia & Saunders
01.15.73 The Inn Of The Beginning, Cotati, California (w/Unidentified Fema
01.24.73 The Boarding House, San Francisco, California
07.10.73 The Keystone, Berkeley, California
07.11.73 The Keystone, Berkeley, California

Garcia, Saunders, &
06.04.74 The Lion's Share, San Anselmo, California (w/Unidentified Female
07.21.74 The Keystone, Berkeley, California (The Grateful Dead Played The
07.22.74 The Keystone, Berkeley, California
09.02.74 Marx Meadows, Golden Gate Park, San Francisco, California

Keith & Donna Band
08.20.75 The Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, California

Kingfish
10.17.75 Concorde Pavilion, Concord, California (Also See...The Jerry Garc
Date/Location Unknown

New Riders
12.02.71 The Boston Music Hall, Boston Massachusetts
12.04.71 The Felt Forum, New York City (w/Jerry Garcia ?)
12.07.71 The Felt Forum, New York City (w/Jerry Garcia ?)
12.10.71 The Fox Theater, St. Louis, Missouri (w/Jerry Garcia ?)
12.15.71 The Hill Auditorium, Ann Arbor, Michigan
05.26.72 The Strand Lyceum, London, England
03.08.73 Berkeley Community Theater, Berkeley, California
03.30.73 Community War Memorial, Rochester, New York
04.02.73 Boston Garden, Boston, Massachusetts
Date/Location Unkno(Probably 1973)

Hot Tuna
10.02.73 Winterland, San Francisco, California

Jefferson Starship
11.24.74 Winterland, San Francisco, California

Sons Of Champlin
12.03.72 Winterland, San Francisco, California


WBOTB
This is the list of Betty boards that were scheduled to be redistributed
under the What's Become of The Betty Boards moniker. The purpose was to
get them back into circulation with known lineages. They DAT masters
were to be made from the first generation PCMs, and in most cases decoding
any Dolby NR.

Grateful Dead
02.18.71 Portchester, NY, whole show, Dolby A decoded
02.19.71 Portchester, NY, whole show, Dolby A *not* decoded
02.20.71 Portchester, NY, whole show, Dolby A decoded
02.21.71 Portchester, NY, whole show, Dolby A decoded
02.23.71 Portchester, NY, whole show, Dolby A decoded
02.24.71 Portchester, NY, whole show, Dolby A decoded
04.05.71 Manhatten Center, whole show, Dolby A decoded
04.06.71 Manhatten Center, whole show, Dolby A decoded
04.07.71 Boston Music Hall, whole show, Dolby A *not* decoded
04.08.71 Boston Music Hall, whole show, Dolby A decoded
12.14.71 Ann Arbor, MI, whole show
05.04.72 Paris, Fr, 1st set only
05.07.72 Bickershaw Festival, Other One to end of show
08.21.72 Berkeley, CA, 2nd set only
08.22.72 Berkeley, CA, 2nd set only
08.25.72 Berkeley, CA, 1st 45 minutes only
08.27.72 Veneta, OR, beginning of show through most of Dark Star
03.16.73 Nassau Coliseum, 1st set through middle of Playing, beg. of Dew to end
03.21.73 Utica, NY, whole show, water damage on tapes causes some distortion
03.22.73 Utica, NY, 1st set plus very end of Other One to end
03.24.73 Philadelphia, PA, Bobby McGee to end of show
03.28.73 Springfield, MA, WRS Prelude to end of show
05.26.73 Kezar Stadium, whole show
06.22.73 Vancouver, BC, beg. of show through most of Other One
08.00.73 Wake of the Flood outtakes
06.10.76 Boston Music Hall, whole show
06.11.76 Boston Music Hall, whole show
06.14.76 Beacon Theater, whole show
06.15.76 Beacon Theater, whole show
various parts of the above four shows, intercuts
06.29.76 Chicago, Ill, whole show
02.26.77 San Bernadino, CA, whole show, DBX type I decoded
05.05.77 New Haven, Conn, whole show, DBX type I decoded
05.07.77 Boston Gardens, whole show, DBX type I decoded
05.08.77 Ithaca,NY, whole show, DBX type I decoded
05.09.77 Buffalo, NY, whole show, DBXtype I decoded
09.28.77 Seattle, Wash, middle of Jack Straw to end of show, DBX type I decoded
09.29.77 Seattle, Wash, whole show, DBX type I decoded
10.01.77 Portland, Ore, whole show, DBX type I decoded
10.02.77 Portland, Ore, whole show, DBX type I decoded
04.06.78 Tampa, Fla, Good Lovin through end of show
04.07.78 Hollywood, Fla, whole show
04.08.78 Jacksonville, Fla, whole show
04.10.78 Atlanta, GA, whole show
04.11.78 Atlanta, GA, whole show
04.12.78 Duke University, whole show
04.14.78 Virginia Tech, whole show
04.15.78 William & Mary College, whole show
04.16.78 Huntington, WVa, whole show
07.07.78 Red Rocks, whole show
07.08.78 Red Rocks, whole show
12.31.78 Winterland, Me and My Uncle through end of show
04.22.79 San Jose, CA, middle of Estimated through middle of Around & Around
09.27.80 Warfield Theater, Acoustic set
10.04.80 Warfield Theater, Acoustic set
10.06.80 Warfield Theater, Acoustic set
10.09.80 Warfield Theater, Acoustic set, and 1st 45 min of 1st set
10.10.80 Warfield Theater, Acoustic set
10.11.80 Warfield Theater, Acoustic set
10.13.80 Warfield Theater, Acoustic set

Jerry Garcia Band
10.11.75 Concord Pavillion, 2nd set
10.17.75 Keystone Berkeley, 2nd set

Hot Tuna
10.02.73 Winterland, whole show

Loggins and Messina
06.30.72 Kansas City, MO, whole show

Jefferson Starship
11.24.74 Winterland, whole show (with entire Blows Against the Empire suite)

Sons of Champlin
12.31.72 Winterland, whole show

Blues Brothers
12.31.78 Winterland, whole show


Known recording lineages of tapes available in circulation

Grateful Dead
00 00 69 Pig Pen solo project (2 songs) 5 SB>Reels>DAT
With 2.18.71, this is all that is available from these sessions
2 18 71 Capitol Theatre, Port Chester NY 158
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel w/ dolby A @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES@ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > dolby A decoder > Apogee filter > analog in PCMF1
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
2 19 71 Capitol Theatre, Port Chester NY 166
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel w/Dolby A @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz (dolby *not* decoded)
2 20 71 Capitol Theatre, Port Chester NY 157
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel w/ dolby A @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES@ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > dolby A decoder > analog in Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
FostexD5 > Fostex D5
2 21 71 Capitol Theatre, Port Chester NY 170
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel w/ dolby A @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > dolby A decoder > analog in PCMF1
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
2 23 71 Capitol Theatre, Port Chester NY 172
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel w/dolby A @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > dolby A decoder > analog in PCMF1
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
2 24 71 Capitol Theatre, Port Chester NY 137
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel w/ dolby A @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > dolby A decoder > analog in PCMF1
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
4 5 71 Manhattan Center, New York NY 176
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel w/ dolby A @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > dolby A decoder > analog in PCMF1 (Beta HiFi)
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
4 6 71 Manhattan Center, New York NY 157
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel w/ dolby A @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > dolby A decoder > analog in PCMF1
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
4 7 71 Boston Music Hall, Boston MA 97 (all)
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel w/ dolby A @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz (dolby *not* decoded)
4 8 71 Boston Music Hall, Boston MA 164
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel w/ dolby A @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > dolby A decoder > analog in PCMF1
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
12 14 71 Hill Auditorium, Ann Arbor MI 177
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz

5 4 72 Olympia Theatre, Paris France 88 1
SB>7" Master Reels @ 7.5 IPS>PCM 501ES (Beta HiFi)>
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 analog in 48 kHz
(with 5.26.73 set 3) (Greatest Story thru Two Souls)
5 7 72 Bickershaw Festival, Wigan, England 75 2p
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
...Other One > end
Togather with 4.22.79, Terrapin & 8.27.72IIIb
8 21 72 Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley CA 91 1p2
WBOTB: 10" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
Set 1: ...Casey Jones, Set 2: all
Togather with 8.22.72a
8 22 72 Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley CA 105 2
WBOTB: 10" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
part a with 8.21.72, part b with 8.25.72, 6.22.73 & 6.14.76
8 25 72 Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley CA 46 all?
WBOTB: 10" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
Togather with 8.22.72b, 6.22.73 & 6.14.76
8 27 72 Veneta OR 203
Sets 1&2 are:
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
Set 3 is not from Betty board (but is a *different* source
than the one above that was treed on r.m.gdead in June '94?):
WBOTB: Vault SBD, not Betty Board, exact pedigree unknown
IIIb togather with 5.7.72, 4.22.79, Terrapin
3 16 73 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale NY 120
WBOTB: 10" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
Set 1 thru start of Playin', Set 2 from start of Morning Dew
thru Sugar Magnolia
3 21 73 Memorial Auditorium, Utica NY 233 all
WBOTB: 10" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
3 22 73 Memorial Auditorium, Utica NY 127 1,2p
WBOTB: 10" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
Set 1: all, Set 2: ...Other One > end
with 10.9.80e1
3 24 73 The Spectrum, Philadelphia PA 148
WBOTB: 10" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
part of set 1, all of 2 - (x)HCS thru end of show
3 28 73 Civic Center, Springfield MA 67 2p
WBOTB: 10" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
WRS thru end of show
5 26 73 Kezar Stadium, San Francisco CA (44.1) 236 SB>Reels>PCM>DAT
(I-122 min, II-114 min)
5 26 73 Kezar Stadium, San Francisco CA 249
(Set 3 is with 5.4.72)
6 22 73 PNE Coliseum, Vancouver British Columbia 223
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
(end of set 2 with 8.22.72b, 8.25.72 & 6.14.76)
8 xx 73 Wake Of The Flood Outtakes 69 SB>PCM>DAT
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
(with 4.7.71)
6 14 76 Beacon Theatre, New York, NY 45
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
Togather with 8.22.72b, 8.25.72 & 6.22.73
6 15 76 Beacon Theatre, New York, NY 180
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
6 29 76 Auditorium Theatre, Chicago IL 183
WBOTB: SB > 7" Master Betty Reels @ 7.5 IPS > PCM501ES analog
out > DBX type I decoder > analog in PCM501ES analog out >
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 DAT at 48 kHz
(inludes interleave reel parts)
00 00 77 Terrapin Station 17
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
Clone of the master reels - side 2 of the album
Togather with 5.7.72, 4.22.79 & 8.27.72IIIb
2 26 77 Swing Auditorium, San Bernadino CA 170
WBOTB: SB>7" Master Reels @ 7.5 IPS>PCM 501ES (Beta HiFi)>
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 analog in 48 kHz
5 5 77 Veteran's Coliseum, New Haven CT 176
WBOTB: SB > 7" Master Betty Reels @ 7.5 IPS > PCM501ES analog out >
DBX type I decoder > analog in PCM501ES analog out > PCM501ES
analog out > Fostex D5 DAT at 48 kHz
5 7 77 Boston Garden, Boston MA 184
WBOTB: SB > 7" Master Betty Reels @ 7.5 IPS > PCM501ES analog out >
DBX type I decoder > analog in PCM501ES analog out > PCM501ES
analog out > Fostex D5 DAT at 48 kHz
(encore with 4.10.78)
5 8 77 Barton Hall, Cornell Univ., Ithaca NY 180
WBOTB: SB > 7" Master Betty Reels @ 7.5 IPS > PCM501ES analog out >
DBX type I decoder > analog in PCM501ES analog out > PCM501ES
analog out > Fostex D5 DAT at 48 kHz
5 9 77 War Memorial, Buffalo NY 178
WBOTB: SB > 7" Master Betty Reels @ 7.5 IPS > PCM501ES analog out >
DBX type I decoder > analog in PCM501ES analog out > PCM501ES
analog out > Fostex D5 DAT at 48 kHz
4 22 79 Spartan Stadium, San Jose CA 48 2p
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
...He's Gone > Around & Around (Brent's first show)
Togather with 5.7.72, Terrapin & 8.27.72IIIb
10 9 80 Warfield Theatre, San Francisco CA 47 e1p
WBOTB: 7" 2-track BBD reel @ 7.5 ips > PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz
PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz
Stranger > Brown Eyed Women(x)
With 3.22.73

The original DAT WBOTB by tape #

Each tape is a 90 meter tape as follows:
Tape #1 - 2 18 71 all
xx xx 69 Pigpen solo project outtakes (2 songs)
Tape #2 - 2 19 71 all
Tape, most folks have never really heard a Betty Board. Until recently, that included me.

These tapes are great folks. You don't just get to hear the clang and hiss of a cymbal, but to hear the wood striking the metal disk, the clang and shake and wobble of the hissing cymbal. Believe me friends, you ain't never heard a Betty Board before.

These tapes, although based on two track reels spun directly from the soundboard, should not be confused with soundboards that have been released in recent years. For one thing, many of the soundboards that the Dead have allowed to sneak out seem to have been slightly salted in one way or another to degrade the sound quality. These Betty Board tapes are pure and sweet, with no salting: they are better! For another thing, these Betty Boards reflect the limitations of working with 7" or 10" reel to reel tapes: sometimes a tape breaks off in the middle of a song; sometimes you can hear the tape spin up to speed at the beginning of a song. There are a few unpleasant reel flips here and there. There are several incomplete shows. Remember, these tapes were originally recorded many years ago by hippies on drugs!

Over the next several months, there will be twenty or so people posting tape trees and/or tape pyramids of these Betty Boards right here on rec.music.gdead. Some DAT trees. Some analog trees. Some newbies trees. Some oldies trees. Some mixed. Some swaps. Some blanks & postage. Some European. There are also several face-to-face trees up and running. Our point is to make hi-quality copies of these shows available to regular old Bozos and Bolos like you and me. No authoritarian trips. No hierarchy. In fact, little hierarchy at all. Friends are spinning copies for friends. We offer them to the community. Y'all come!

We'll be calling it the "What's Become of the Betty's" tree.

The postings should begin to appear shortly. We'll be going in chronological order, beginning with the 1971 shows. Eventually we'll even make it to 5-08-77 (tm) and beyond. Which shows? Well, you'll know that when we start posting. Let's keep this fun. You just won't know what's under the tree until Christmas morning. Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile.

I'm making this initial announcement through an anonymous account mostly because I don't want to be deluged with email. There are several of us whose main part of the tree is spinning seed for friends who will do the actual treeing. I'm one of the seed-spinners. My decks are *full* for the next seven months, which is how long it will take us to tree these tapes.

Wait for the posts. It won't be long.

Posted on behalf of "The Unindicted Co-Conspirators,"

xx

and

xx



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