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Re: janice shell post# 315273

Monday, 08/16/2010 1:18:21 AM

Monday, August 16, 2010 1:18:21 AM

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very_tired15: Another thing Dream, if I were found involved in filing a lawsuit that was not founded in real evidence, I could face disciplinaty proceedings from the State Bar, as well as being sued. I have not only put $$ up front, but I have the potential of a license at stake - one that caused me years of training and is the lifeline for my family to put food ont he table.

A very scared and stupid lawyer, who is trying once again to desperately place the blame on other plaintiffs for their statements in Paltalk, while avoiding his own conduct.

And he's supposed to be a lawyer??


very_tired15: The update is a complete frustration to me
very_tired15: Deli is a part of this scenario... I promise you. Deli is a good guy in the end.. you will all see

very_tired15: If Deli was not acting as a part of the plan, why did the SEC not simply get an injunction against him to stop him from selling shares? No, the entire SEC action against him was to isolate Deli so nobody tried to duplicate him.

very_tired15: If IBM made a deal with these banks to allow them to use our money after the money was paid, then we need to be told and given a firm date when the usage will be over. This BS about global settlements is getting too much. I am forever fed up with hearing the names Poof and Casper

very_tired15: I am sorry if I seem negative or upset, but I have my own personal battles to deal with in this stock that I never discuss publically

very_tired15: My frustration Ronnie is on several levels, even those beyond what most sh would know...

very_tired15: Urban's Warrior, thank you for your kind support, but I see certain things that I can not always share that make me even more frustrated

very_tired15: Fraction, I am working on it. I do not want to cause a flare of emotion one way or the other. In fact, the frustration seemed to be in the room when I got here. However, I am extremely frustrated about certain issues and I am running out of steam. I have tried to resolve them and they are not getting resolved

very_tired15: Much of the same frustrations you already have Cutglass. Just imagine your same frustrations but at a little deeper level (on much of the same issues you already feel frustrated about).

very_tired15: billionaire, if the President is involved and unjustly holding us up, then we should name him as a defendant in this lawsuit

very_tired15: I want to know EXACTLY who has our money, who is the trustee, who has been collecting interest and see all the agreements which govern why our money would be tied to the global settlements.

very_tired15: I have not seen the evidence in this case

very_tired15: The only evidence I have which gave me a reasonable basis to believe that money is there is the written statement by Sheila and her secretary that Hakala made the statement in July of '09. I did not go to Al because of my license, I went as a plaintiff who demanded to see evidence and he showed me next to nothing

very_tired15: Gosh, I paid $10K.. Salty, Sheila, Reece, Nelson and Dave, all together, paid 2K

very_tired15: Hearsay is adequate for the purpose of establishing probable cause to have a belief that a lawsuit has a basis to be filed

very_tired15: I have kept a positive outlook because I try to focus on what positive things that I can. However, today's update is frustrating.. I could pretend I am excited about it, but I am not

very_tired15: I had spokento AH a few times. Don McCurdy set up a dinner with AH and at that dinner, I said I would do anything I could to help us get paid. He spoke of a lawsuit and I said I would be willing to help in any way possible. He then told me he needed me as a plaintiff.

very_tired15: I am not aware of anyone under a NDA
very_tired15: I was the first one to make contact

very_tired15: What I refuse to comprehend is the fact the banks or the governemnt are using our money, but they could not even give out .05 or.10 and keep to use the rest? All parties could have been well served. Instead, we get the shaft.
very_tired15: instead, hundreds of shareholders are suffering, losing homes, divorcing 'cause of financial stress, cars repo'd, sick, dying, etc... it is criminal what these MFs are doing

very_tired15: There may be next to nothing or AH may be under NDA.. I am not certain which, but believe the latter.

very_tired15: The plaintiffs speaking on these boards as they have is something I FIRMLY disagree with. It is different to discuss ideas and opinions, but giving dates and other specifics are taking the sh on a rollercoaster ride and I don't like it

coachjack12: Allan is ER a real term,cmon...
very_tired15: I hear you coach.. I have serious doubts

very_tired15: Well, I have asked the plaintiffs to stop speaking on the boards (I wrote 4 letters).. but they persist.. so I said the hell with it. I am going to start letting loose on these boards.

very_tired15: I even threatened to withdraw if the giving of dates did not stop. It serves nobody's interest.. but to hell with it..
very_tired15: Ric, I do not know if the Global Settlements are real or not. I could more easily accept it if I were presented evidence in writing that we are tied into it. I have not and in fact, I know AH only recently even communicated for the first time with Mike Cotrell. It makes no sense to me that we are attached to this global settlements

very_tired15: I bought some from DEli, but had most of my shares before we stopped trading

very_tired15: Ishould say that the global; settlements could very well be real - if we are attached to it, that is the question
very_tired15: I tell you all what I am REALLY getting disgusted with - the promised dates and sharing info with family and friends and by this time - with so many missed dates, they all thinking I am a lunatic...

very_tired15: all that is requirtede Hoochie, is for AH and the SEC to file their docs.. no hearing required

very_tired15: I firmly believe that the identity of the trustee is wellknown. Additionally, the trustee should be named in the lawsuit so the court can get control and jurisdiction over him so he can be ordered to release the money

very_tired15: Deli is on the good side - I would bet everything I have on it

very_tired15: GOTDIAMONDS, think about it. If the SEC was REALLY suing him, and they wanted him to stop, then they would have sought and reveived a simple order from the court stopping him.
very_tired15: The question remains, "how the "f" do we get the release our money?"

very_tired15: The lawsuit must be amended.. parties must be added...

very_tired15: Beiung jkept in the dark is bs.. if the bad guys are the ones who had the team sign an NDA, then they need to go to court and be relieved of those duties becvause the bad guys are blocking the distribution

very_tired15: dream, I appreciate what you are saying, but I am a plaintiff and I stil don't know anything of what is going on.. that is very tough for me.. especially since the role of a plaintiff is to know the basis for which he is suing
CMKX-baby: is the only proof we have the sworn statement by shelia?

CMKX-baby: regarding alledged convo with hakala
cutglass_1: thats right alan
*** Muddypawz has left the room ***
very_tired15: exactly CMKX-baby.. that is all I have

very_tired15: Al showed me a witness list, but of course, I never got to interview them to know what they plan to say. I saw a couple written statements, but they were not under oath and I saw a stack ofpapers but I was not invited to look at them.

very_tired15: AS far as enough probable cause to file a lawsuit, Sheila and her secretary's written and sworn statements are adequate to file the lawsuit. However, there needs to be more as time goes on and I have not seen any of it.
very_tired15: I would hope tyhat Mr. Maheu is with us.. but I have no confirmation

very_tired15: but Dream, what is being said makes little sense to me... for example, global settlements. dream, whether he should have evidence if he put it in the lawsuit or not, I am a plaintiff. I am legally entitled to know. It is extremely frustrating...

very_tired15: Another thing Dream, if I were found involved in filing a lawsuit that was not founded in real evidence, I could face disciplinaty proceedings from the State Bar, as well as being sued. I have not only put $$ up front, but I have the potential of a license at stake - one that caused me years of training and is the lifeline for my family to put food ont he table.

very_tired15: ric147, I asked the plaintiffs to remain quiet.. I even threatened to withdraw if the plaintiffs kept giving dates and times as they did.. they never stopped.. so if they can speak, I can speak...

very_tired15: Then, to see the plaintiffs come out on these boards and mislead the SH base as they do - and no controls put on them - I get more than very concerned
very_tired15: So, if the plaintiffs can continue to come out and talk details, why should I restrain myself?

very_tired15: I believe that there is money there and that Maheu collected it. However, I want to know who has it now, who is collecting interest on it, and why is it connected to these global settlements? Who ordered it so connected? Where is the written documentation?

very_tired15: You want to know why I am speaking my mind? I am not saying that there is no money and that we will not get paid. I want to be given some solid answers so I can plan my life. That is not an unfair request

very_tired15: No, I won't get it here. I initially wanted to come in and see how people were handling the update, which I find frustrating


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A man of uncomparable character and resolve. He is one of God's truly blessed men


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