greg_s Read my last post the pdf file..... which is a NTRU publication and it seems that this partnership (STM endorses the NTRU/WAVX system at end of 2004!) is moving full speed ahead. I think MSFT is gonna use this system in a significant way. IMHO.... Secret stuff but i still think it is gonna happen. MSFT has to keep it under wraps but I think the STM announce- ment is a dead giveaway signal that it is gonna happen. Putting it all together it is not "old news". It is SALIENT and 'new' news. IMHO....