El Dude, what ARE you talking about?: Dell rep can say this: "We can sell you 100's of PC's and will add a TPM for free, so do not buy from HP, because they do not even have TPM's" and he'd be lying.............. Have you looked at eamonshute's matrix? <A HREF="http://www.tonymcfadden.net/tpmvendors.htm" target="_blank">http://www.tonymcfadden.net/tpmvendors.htm</A>