sorry to dissapoint some of you, but have never been a basher or shorter. I go by charts alone. Now that being said this has not reached .005 like I have thought it would, but it aint over yet. And I was also called a basher when I said .008 first and then again when I said .006, guess I was right on the 1st one and close on the second, this is not an exact science, really hard to hit exact bottoms and tops. either way, I was more right than almost every one here calling .02 and .05, so go figure.