SteveF then explain to me the 500 Trilllion plus in off balance sheet derivatives that the bankers are all holding ? Most of the money in existance now is in electronic form as digits. So the 3.8 trillion dollars for CMKXers and others is very plausible ! JMHO Chas56789 When I read you guys I can't get this image out of my head: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/upload/2009/04/weekend_diversion_do_tinfoil_h/tinfoil_hat_antenna.jpg