i think it's pretty clear what is the norm in the graveyard .. doesn't pertain to spng .. at least to this point in time fact .. sec is involved fact .. filings keep getting filed fact .. pike keeps buying shares fact .. products exist fact .. sec is involved so all that is being done .. is being done under the *watchful* eye of the SEC fine by me .. time frame and *details* only known to *insiders* -- 4kids all jmo