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Re: linda1 post# 121298

Thursday, 11/19/2009 5:41:26 PM

Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:41:26 PM

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That last trade (1000 @ .01)was likely from someone that had no idea how bonds trade and their broker got a nice commission by selling them essentially nothing for their money.


If you look at historical trades on the issues, you will see that someone over a year ago was paying quite a bit for them, and it certainly wouldn't surprise me if it was the FDIC buying them.

Check out these trades from Sept and Oct of 2008 after the receivership and filing for bankruptcy on some of the WMB sub notes (juniors)


Issue: WAMU.IK Description: WASHINGTON MUTUAL BANK Coupon Rate: 5.125 Maturity Date: 01/15/2015

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Execution
Date Time Status Quantity Price Yield Comm. Modifier 2nd Modifier Special As Of Reporting Party Side
10/30/2008 16:01:00 T 30000 0.125 819.589 N @
10/28/2008 15:18:00 T 27000 0.250 711.995 N @
10/28/2008 15:18:00 T 27000 0.250 711.995 N @
10/28/2008 11:40:08 T 878000 0.500 559.884 N @
10/28/2008 11:35:04 T 878000 0.500 559.884 N @
10/27/2008 12:32:37 T 1MM+ 0.375 20420.863 N @
10/27/2008 11:45:28 T 1MM+ 0.250 711.599 N @
10/27/2008 11:45:28 C 1MM+ 0.250 711.599 N @
10/27/2008 11:45:08 T 1MM+ 100.000 5.124 N @
10/27/2008 11:45:08 C 1MM+ 100.000 5.124 N @
10/27/2008 11:29:31 T 1MM+ 0.250 711.599 N @
10/27/2008 11:29:31 C 1MM+ 0.250 711.599 N @
10/27/2008 11:29:05 T 1MM+ 100.000 5.124 N @
10/27/2008 11:29:05 C 1MM+ 100.000 5.124 N @
10/24/2008 14:20:42 T 1MM+ 100.000 5.123 N @
10/24/2008 14:09:30 T 1MM+ 100.000 5.123 N @
10/24/2008 11:52:45 T 1MM+ 0.220 734.382 N @
10/24/2008 11:45:28 T 1MM+ 0.250 711.295 N @ A
10/24/2008 11:45:08 T 1MM+ 100.000 5.123 N @ A
10/24/2008 11:45:08 C 1MM+ 100.000 5.123 N @ A
10/24/2008 11:29:31 T 1MM+ 0.250 711.295 N @ R
10/24/2008 11:29:31 T 1MM+ 0.250 711.295 N @ A
10/24/2008 11:29:05 T 1MM+ 100.000 5.123 N @ R
10/24/2008 11:29:05 C 1MM+ 100.000 5.123 N @ R
10/24/2008 11:29:05 T 1MM+ 100.000 5.123 N @ A

http://cxa.marketwatch.com/finra/BondCenter/BondTradeActivitySearchResult.aspx?StartDate=09/26/2008&EndDate=11/01/2008&SelectionOption=2&TradeSize=&SortBy=0&ID=OTM5MzNXQUMw

Issue: WAMU.IK Description: WASHINGTON MUTUAL BANK Coupon Rate: 5.125 Maturity Date: 01/15/2015

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Execution
Date Time Status Quantity Price Yield Comm. Modifier 2nd Modifier Special As Of Reporting Party Side
10/24/2008 11:29:05 C 1MM+ 100.000 5.123 N @ R
10/23/2008 12:11:00 T 1MM+ 0.220 734.172 N @
10/22/2008 17:21:29 T 980000 1.000 383.399 N A A
10/22/2008 13:58:02 T 1MM+ 100.000 5.123 N @ A
10/22/2008 13:42:55 T 600000 0.750 3653.340 N @
10/22/2008 13:42:55 C 600000 0.750 3653.340 N @
10/22/2008 13:42:00 T 600000 0.750 456.400 N @
10/22/2008 07:10:00 T 1MM+ 0.250 0.000 N @ A
10/20/2008 12:00:08 T 620000 100.000 5.384 N N
10/20/2008 12:00:08 C 620000 100.000 5.384 N N
10/20/2008 12:00:00 T 620000 100.000 5.384 N N
10/20/2008 12:00:00 C 620000 100.000 5.384 N N
10/20/2008 10:44:00 T 620000 100.000 5.384 N N
10/20/2008 10:44:00 C 620000 100.000 5.384 N N
10/17/2008 16:31:06 T 5000 0.250 711.702 N @
10/17/2008 10:00:48 T 1MM+ 1.000 383.233 N @
10/17/2008 09:53:11 T 1MM+ 1.000 383.233 N @
10/17/2008 09:53:11 T 1MM+ 1.000 383.233 N @
10/17/2008 09:53:11 C 1MM+ 1.000 383.233 N @
10/17/2008 09:47:57 T 1MM+ 0.937 1981.027 N @
10/15/2008 16:05:32 T 256000 1.000 383.314 N @
10/15/2008 15:43:59 T 256000 1.000 383.314 N @
10/15/2008 15:43:59 T 256000 1.000 383.314 N @
10/15/2008 15:43:59 C 256000 1.000 383.314 N @
10/15/2008 15:41:14 T 256000 0.937 399.498 N @


http://cxa.marketwatch.com/finra/BondCenter/BondTradeActivitySearchResult.aspx?StartDate=09%2f26%2f2008&EndDate=11%2f01%2f2008&SelectionOption=2&TradeSize=&SortBy=0&ID=OTM5MzNXQUMw

Issue: WAMU.IK Description: WASHINGTON MUTUAL BANK Coupon Rate: 5.125 Maturity Date: 01/15/2015

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Execution
Date Time Status Quantity Price Yield Comm. Modifier 2nd Modifier Special As Of Reporting Party Side
10/15/2008 14:30:22 T 256000 0.750 456.467 N @
10/15/2008 13:10:29 T 5000 1.000 383.314 N @
10/15/2008 13:09:57 T 5000 1.000 383.314 N @
10/15/2008 13:09:57 T 5000 1.000 383.314 N @
10/15/2008 12:19:18 T 665000 2.000 229.252 N @
10/15/2008 11:04:19 T 650000 0.750 2906.143 N @
10/15/2008 10:51:56 T 650000 1.000 383.314 N @
10/14/2008 16:12:39 T 1MM+ 1.750 255.336 N @
10/10/2008 08:17:00 T 15000 0.125 823.696 N @
10/09/2008 12:10:00 T 5000 0.300 679.772 N @
10/09/2008 12:10:00 T 5000 0.300 679.772 N @
10/09/2008 12:08:00 T 5000 0.500 561.378 N Z
10/08/2008 16:11:00 T 708000 1.000 1320.850 N N
10/08/2008 12:28:06 T 1MM+ 2.250 388.368 N @
10/08/2008 11:22:00 T 5000 0.250 717.487 N @
10/08/2008 11:22:00 T 5000 0.250 717.487 N @
10/08/2008 07:40:00 T 1MM+ 2.000 229.328 N @ A
10/07/2008 16:40:00 T 1MM+ 1.000 1346.352 N @ A
10/06/2008 11:59:00 T 1MM+ 0.750 459.702 N @
10/06/2008 10:19:22 T 1MM+ 2.000 441.431 N @
10/03/2008 16:38:05 T 1000000 2.250 368.886 N @
10/03/2008 16:20:52 T 400000 2.500 318.016 N @
10/03/2008 15:41:00 T 1MM+ 2.250 208.321 N @
10/03/2008 15:29:00 T 1MM+ 2.562 186.776 N @
10/03/2008 15:06:00 T 10000 0.025 952.474 Y @

http://cxa.marketwatch.com/finra/BondCenter/BondTradeActivitySearchResult.aspx?StartDate=09%2f26%2f2008&EndDate=11%2f01%2f2008&SelectionOption=2&TradeSize=&SortBy=0&ID=OTM5MzNXQUMw



Issue: WAMU.II Description: WASHINGTON MUTUAL BANK Coupon Rate: 5.650 Maturity Date: 08/15/2014

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Execution
Date Time Status Quantity Price Yield Comm. Modifier 2nd Modifier Special As Of Reporting Party Side
10/31/2008 16:43:18 T 25000 0.125 858.133 N @
10/31/2008 16:43:18 T 25000 0.125 858.133 N @
10/31/2008 16:43:18 T 75000 0.125 858.133 N @
10/31/2008 16:43:18 T 75000 0.125 858.133 N @
10/31/2008 16:31:42 T 100000 0.125 858.133 N @
10/31/2008 11:26:47 T 1MM+ 0.500 593.957 N @
10/30/2008 07:39:03 T 1MM+ 0.375 7463.802 N @
10/29/2008 09:10:59 T 1MM+ 0.500 0.000 N @
10/27/2008 11:23:27 T 1MM+ 0.250 761.664 N @
10/27/2008 11:23:27 C 1MM+ 0.250 761.664 N @
10/27/2008 11:22:46 T 1MM+ 100.000 5.648 N @
10/27/2008 11:22:46 C 1MM+ 100.000 5.648 N @
10/24/2008 11:23:27 T 1MM+ 0.250 764.305 N @ A
10/24/2008 11:23:27 T 1MM+ 0.250 764.305 N @ R
10/24/2008 11:22:46 T 1MM+ 100.000 5.648 N @ A
10/24/2008 11:22:46 C 1MM+ 100.000 5.648 N @ A
10/24/2008 11:22:46 T 1MM+ 100.000 5.648 N @ R
10/24/2008 11:22:46 C 1MM+ 100.000 5.648 N @ R
10/23/2008 14:37:47 T 1MM+ 0.250 767.062 N @
10/23/2008 12:14:53 T 25000 0.140 866.360 N @
10/23/2008 12:14:53 T 25000 0.140 866.360 N @
10/23/2008 12:14:53 T 25000 0.140 866.360 N Z
10/22/2008 13:45:08 T 300000 0.750 1946.592 N @
10/22/2008 13:45:08 C 300000 0.750 1946.592 N @
10/22/2008 13:43:00 T 300000 0.750 494.489 N @


http://cxa.marketwatch.com/finra/BondCenter/BondTradeActivitySearchResult.aspx?StartDate=09/26/2008&EndDate=11/01/2008&SelectionOption=2&TradeSize=&SortBy=0&ID=OTM5MzNXQUIy

Issue: WAMU.II Description: WASHINGTON MUTUAL BANK Coupon Rate: 5.650 Maturity Date: 08/15/2014

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Execution
Date Time Status Quantity Price Yield Comm. Modifier 2nd Modifier Special As Of Reporting Party Side
10/17/2008 12:37:00 T 50000 0.250 786.169 N @
10/17/2008 12:37:00 T 50000 0.250 786.169 N @
10/15/2008 14:59:00 T 15000 0.850 466.672 N @
10/15/2008 14:59:00 T 15000 0.850 466.672 N @
10/14/2008 16:56:10 T 1MM+ 1.000 423.732 N @
10/10/2008 15:32:00 T 1000000 1.000 424.650 N @
10/10/2008 15:32:00 W 1MM+ 1.000 424.650 N @
10/09/2008 15:56:00 T 1000 0.125 948.549 N @
10/09/2008 15:56:00 C 1000 0.125 948.549 N @
10/09/2008 15:50:00 T 50000 0.025 1087.203 Y @
10/03/2008 12:56:04 T 1MM+ 2.000 254.690 N @
10/03/2008 12:56:04 W 1MM+ 2.500 210.981 N Z
10/03/2008 12:43:37 T 1000 0.800 500.903 N @
10/03/2008 12:43:37 T 1000 0.800 500.903 N @
10/03/2008 11:22:44 T 20000 0.375 3579.785 N @
10/03/2008 11:19:11 T 20000 0.375 3579.785 N @
10/03/2008 08:56:47 T 250000 1.062 415.283 N @
10/03/2008 08:28:42 T 250000 1.000 944.251 N @
10/02/2008 17:46:03 T 1MM+ 0.500 2360.200 N A
10/02/2008 17:16:51 T 1MM+ 1.000 434.247 N A
10/02/2008 17:16:51 T 1MM+ 1.000 434.247 N @ A
10/02/2008 16:44:00 T 1MM+ 0.625 581.155 N @
10/02/2008 16:34:50 T 1MM+ 1.000 932.317 N @
10/02/2008 16:16:00 T 3000 0.125 1009.775 N @
10/02/2008 16:08:00 T 75000 0.062 1105.716 N @

http://cxa.marketwatch.com/finra/BondCenter/BondTradeActivitySearchResult.aspx?StartDate=09%2f26%2f2008&EndDate=11%2f01%2f2008&SelectionOption=2&TradeSize=&SortBy=0&ID=OTM5MzNXQUIy

Issue: WAMU.II Description: WASHINGTON MUTUAL BANK Coupon Rate: 5.650 Maturity Date: 08/15/2014

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Execution
Date Time Status Quantity Price Yield Comm. Modifier 2nd Modifier Special As Of Reporting Party Side
10/02/2008 11:33:50 T 1MM+ 0.500 2360.200 N @
10/01/2008 15:43:00 T 10000 0.025 1184.193 Y @
10/01/2008 15:39:00 T 25000 0.025 1184.193 Y @
10/01/2008 15:39:00 T 115000 0.125 1018.835 N @
09/30/2008 15:39:26 T 1MM+ 0.125 1048.239 N @
09/30/2008 13:03:58 T 25000 0.125 1048.239 N Z
09/30/2008 13:03:58 T 25000 0.125 48.240 N Z
09/30/2008 13:03:08 T 1MM+ 0.125 1048.239 N @
09/30/2008 13:01:24 T 205000 0.125 1048.239 N Z
09/30/2008 13:01:24 T 205000 0.125 48.240 N Z
09/30/2008 13:01:24 T 195000 0.125 0.000 N @ A
09/30/2008 13:01:24 T 205000 0.125 0.000 N @ R
09/30/2008 13:01:24 W 189000 0.125 0.000 N @ A
09/30/2008 13:01:24 T 153000 0.125 0.000 N @ A
09/30/2008 13:01:24 T 189000 0.125 0.000 N @ R
09/30/2008 12:00:00 T 6000 0.125 0.000 N @ A
09/30/2008 12:00:00 T 5000 0.125 0.000 N @ A
09/30/2008 12:00:00 T 25000 0.125 0.000 N @ A
09/30/2008 12:00:00 T 6000 0.125 0.000 N @ A
09/30/2008 11:41:28 T 1MM+ 0.187 959.561 N @
09/30/2008 10:51:16 T 1MM+ 0.375 761.025 N @
09/30/2008 10:48:29 T 1MM+ 0.342 3630.306 N @
09/30/2008 10:47:33 T 1MM+ 0.360 3389.618 N @
09/30/2008 10:46:51 T 1MM+ 0.375 761.025 N @
09/29/2008 14:57:00 T 45000 0.125 1058.844 N @

http://cxa.marketwatch.com/finra/BondCenter/BondTradeActivitySearchResult.aspx?StartDate=09%2f26%2f2008&EndDate=11%2f01%2f2008&SelectionOption=2&TradeSize=&SortBy=0&ID=OTM5MzNXQUIy



All bonds trade the same and are priced the same way, and there are plenty of resources available to find out how bonds "work".

Numbers don't lie, people do.

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