Kennedy, I hate to waste my last post on this, but here's the reply that MATT made, not "phil"... Posted by: IH Admin [Matt] In reply to: Phil (Bullrider) who wrote msg# 12859 Date: 7/25/2004 4:43:20 PM Post # Hmmm...interesting. Gets down to 2 or 3 on the ask again, I'll get in again. They'll fire up the hype machine and give me another easy 33% scot