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Re: HROLLER post# 4929

Sunday, 01/18/2009 6:11:47 PM

Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:11:47 PM

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Bopfan feels that a default event has occured regarding WAMPQ,
however, she still recommends buying WAMPQ.

This does not add up.


If a default event occured when WMI entered chapter 11, then all shares of WAMPQ purchased after the supposed default event would technically be worthless.


You can't have it both ways.


If there was a default event, then only pre-bk shares have value. If there was not a default event, then all shares that are currently trading have the same value.


I personally believe that a default event has NOT occured and that WAMPQ will continue to trade until a merger/buyout occurs or until WMI exits bankruptcy.


If a default event had occured, WAMPQ would not even be trading anymore and would have stopped trading immediately after the default event occured, just like the below-listed securities that underwent an exchange event.


No such event has occured regarding WAMPQ. All shares are worth the same, be them pre or post BK.


"Note 5: Washington Mutual Preferred Funding



On September 25, 2008, the Office of Thrift Supervision concluded that an “Exchange Event” had occurred with respect to the following securities (the “Securities”):





Washington Mutual Preferred (Cayman) I Ltd. 7.25% Perpetual Non-cumulative Preferred Securities, Series A-1 (to be exchanged into depositary shares representing Series J Perpetual Non-Cumulative Fixed Rate Preferred Stock of Washington Mutual, Inc. (“WMI”));






Washington Mutual Preferred (Cayman) I Ltd. 7.25% Perpetual Non-cumulative Preferred Securities, Series A-2 (to be exchanged into depositary shares representing Series J Perpetual Non-Cumulative Fixed Rate Preferred Stock of WMI);






Washington Mutual Preferred Funding Trust I Fixed-to-Floating Rate Perpetual Non-cumulative Trust Securities (to be exchanged into depositary shares representing Series I Perpetual Non-Cumulative Fixed-to-Floating Rate Preferred Stock of WMI);






Washington Mutual Preferred Funding Trust II Fixed-to-Floating Rate Perpetual Non-cumulative Trust Securities (to be exchanged into depositary shares representing Series L Perpetual Non-Cumulative Fixed Rate Preferred Stock of WMI);






Washington Mutual Preferred Funding Trust III Fixed-to-Floating Rate Perpetual Non-cumulative Trust Securities (to be exchanged into depositary shares representing Series M Perpetual Non-Cumulative Fixed Rate Preferred Stock of WMI); and






Washington Mutual Preferred Funding Trust IV Fixed-to-Floating Rate Perpetual Non-cumulative Trust Securities (to be exchanged into depositary shares representing Series N Perpetual Non-Cumulative Fixed-to-Floating Rate Preferred Stock of WMI).




In accordance with the terms of the documents governing the Securities, the Conditional Exchange of the Securities occurred on Friday, September 26, 2008 at 8:00 A.M. (New York time). The documentation governing the Securities contemplates that at the time of the Conditional Exchange, each outstanding Security was intended to be exchanged automatically for a like amount of newly issued Fixed Rate Depositary Shares or newly issued Fixed-to-Floating Rate Depositary Shares, as applicable, each representing a 1/1000th interest in one share of the applicable series of preferred stock of WMI. If and until such depositary receipts are delivered or in the event such depositary receipts are not delivered, any certificates previously representing Securities are deemed for all purposes, effective as of 8:00 AM (New York time) on September 26, 2008, to represent Fixed Rate Depositary Shares or Fixed-to-Floating Rate Depositary Shares, as applicable.



WMI and its advisors are currently assessing a number of legal, accounting and tax issues related to the Securities and the transactions related to the Conditional Exchange. Because of these unresolved issues, WMI has not yet reflected the Conditional Exchange and/or its attendant transactions on its financial statements.



WMI intends to make a public announcement upon resolution of these issues. The foregoing notwithstanding, assuming that the Conditional Exchange had been completed in accordance with the terms of the relevant documentation, on a pro forma basis WMI’s financial statements as at November 30, 2008 would reflect a credit to shareholders’ equity of approximately $3.9 billion upon issuance of the new classes of preferred stock of WMI that were reserved for issuance upon the occurrence of the Conditional Exchange, as well as a corresponding loss of approximately $3.9 billion upon conversion of the Securities. "


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