re: Real Player, I've been using Real Alternative which will play all the Real formats and actually uses Windows Media Player Classis v.6.4.8.2. So far for me, every web site that looks for RealOne Player has been fooled. <A HREF="http://www.click-now.net/cgi-bin/download.pl?file=1155" target="_blank">http://www.click-now.net/cgi-bin/download.pl?file=1155</A>