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Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:10:12 AM

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It doesn’t matter who, what matters is what you think!!!



I just wanted to let you know that I think it would be a GREAT idea to load up on Washington Mutual Preferred Stock (WAMKQ, WAMPQ (might go back down to $4 but you should just buy it now, and WAHU) AND Washington Mutual common stock (wait as long as you can, but not long enough as to miss the train)

Yes Washington Mutual is in Ch 11 right now, however, the whole reason they are there is because the FDIC stole their WAMU branches and called it a "seizure" and said they didn't have enough money after $16 billion in deposits magically walked out in 2-3 days) that led to WM's "collapse". The latest report from the the OTS precisely stated that Washington Mutual "was well capitalized". You have to take a step back and look at the fact that Washington Mutual was the oldest, the biggest, and the most trusted S & L, and they did nothing that justifies people losing that trust. The JPM - FDIC thing is very true and very real, and it has been made clear by the "absolute silence" on the topic of Washington Mutual by the mainstream media , that they have been told to keep their mouths SHUT, and that is exactly what they are doing. The stories will start flooding out soon enough, but not before the deal is done. I can support my ideas until I am blue in the face, but a recent indicator to me is Obama's wise decision to not put someone from the FDIC on his team, even though it was rumored at one time that he would appoint Bair. He is too smart for that. (Also; SHORTERS OF FINANCIALS BEWARE! Bashers of financials better start looking for another industry to destroy because you’re days are numbered. Consider yourselves WARNED !)

Anyways, I wanted to provide you with some links that I feel contain enough data and support, especially the prospectus links, to allow one to make their own decisions. Don't be worried abouth the fact that these are all trading on the Pinks right now, I know the danger of that, and I know it almost always turns out bad, however, I have the fullest of confidence that either JPM will " finish the job" and buyout Washington Mutual , which is the holdings comopany that is still the parent company of several subsidiaries that are provided in a link below.


I personally "traded" as many shares of the Washington Mutual common stock WAMUQ as I could, when it was between .055 and .085 but did so by always making sure I had the shares I wanted locked up before the end of the day ……..just in case something happens quick.

I have since re-invested much of my profits into PREFERRED SHARES ( these are the key to investing). I always get a huge kick when someone like Warren Buffet says he is going to invest like $10 billion into Goldman Sachs, and then wonder why the pps of the common stock only surged for 1-2 days. The answer is because the MMs manipulate the prices of all stocks at all times and WARREN BUFFET DOES NOT BUY COMMON STOCK. HE BUYS PREFERRED STOCK for obvious reasons. I took my profits and dumped them into GM preferred shares and Senior Notes, that actually have a liquidation value(unlike commons), pay divis, were/are trading at same pps as the commons along with C preferreds that are a super great buy right now.

However, the ability to "flip" WAMUQ is over as when I did that, it was early on this ch 11 proceedings while people were excited and over-reacting . Whe are now entering the inevitable continuous drop towards .01 as it happens eventually to all BK stocks. There is even more than good "news" coming out if you know where to look for it, but the people that bought the commons in the last few weeks thinking they were getting a good deal are starting to get scared because the pps is currently at .03 . I took all of my money less the profits I made and personally loaded up on WAMKQ at a very low pps and have 280 shares of WAMPQ. I am waiting and watching, whith a smile on my face as the pps of the common stock continues in its, what I like to call a "beautiful slope headed directly to the intersection of 0 and 0 " at a beautiful pace. It will continue to go down as the MMs are "shaking the tree to see how many monkeys will fall out". Although the charts of these stocks look identical to all BK stocks, the situation surrounding it is far from average. This situation is price manipulation at its finest, with the sole intent to instill fear in the commstock holders to get them to sell, and the tease of increases in the preferred stock that get people to dump shares for a little $$. It is my firm belief that those who still have TRUST in Washington Mutual are presented with a once in a lifetime opportunity for a once in a lifetime opportunity. They will be back on the big board, it might take a long time if no buyout occurs as the average Delaware BK takes 18 months, if a buyout occurs it will happen before Christmas, but I think it is much more likely that trading will be halted
It is clear to me after extensive research, coupled with the fact that
WASHINGTON MUTUAL DIDN’T DO ANYTHING WRONG. Huh, turns out they were fine and now they’re probably the STRONGEST !!! When all is said and done, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if after all is said and done, WASHINGTON MUTUAL ends up absorbing jpm in accompanied by REALTIME LEVEL 2 for those who were involved in the wrong-doing and will be spending a LOT of time

Where the footlongs are FREE everyday !

Try to see this for what it really is. Now payouts for common stocks and/or preferreds could come in the form of warrants, cash for preferreds, or a combination of both, but the bottom line is if YOU'RE IN , YOU WIN and if you SOLD YOUR OUT IN THE COLD. I firmly believe the BK judge will not approve any plan that does not include compensation to the shareholders , be them common or preferred. I also firmly believe that if ch 11 continues, then this will take a long time to playout. If jpm wants to come in and squash negative PR that will be coming out by all media outlets soon if they do not finish the deal that is currently being worked on, if JPM doesn't want a holdings company, if jpm doesn't want the actual $4.4 billion that is on deposit in one of their recently stolen WAMU branches that belongs to WASHINGTON MUTUAL, if jpm doesn't want to lose the same $4.4 billion in the form of a deposit on their books (which would kill them) if jpm doesn't want the $20 billion NOL that belongs to WAshington Mutual, and jpm doesn't want to help their tanking stock by turning themselves into an instant hero buy simply finishing the deal they tried to lowball Washington Mutual on several months ago and putting out a bullshit statement to the effect of " We wanted to wait until we had an operational strategy in place that would allow us to take over all of the operations of Washington Mutual in such a way that would be as seamless as possible for Washington Mutual Customers. blah blah blah" , but I don’t think a buyout is going to happen. Washington Mutual is too strong and too well respected to just give up. They are going to stay in bankruptcy as long as it takes to get back down to the business of doing business and they respect those that take risks. One could argue that they took risks too, and they did, but if they ever thought it would be a good idea to raise some extra $$$, they always did it the right way , which is buy offering preferreds that are worth buying and getting it done the old fashioned way. They are not going to give away all of their assets for the exact price that they are worth today, because that would be stupid. Plus, they really did have their banks ripped away for NO GOOD REASON at all. They are in a perfect position to come back as the powerhouse on the market because they are smart. Washington Mutual has always been a name you can TRUST, and that is something that will NEVER change. The headline will be something like

ATTENTION WASHINGTON MUTUAL SHAREHOLDERS: SINCE YOU BELIEVED IN US, WE BELIEVE IN YOU
And they will continue to use something to that affect about

IF YOU BELIEVE IN US, WE’LL BELIEVE IN YOU

I predict that JPM is going to be made an example of due to their VIOLATION of the law, history of deception, lies, and complete lack of respect for REAL PEOPLE with REAL PROBLEMS.


I am putting in a bid in for WAMUQ (common stock) at .0145 , which I hope it will get down to. If it doesn't, then its someone's way of telling me to stop being so greedy and/or stupid. If it gets to .01, I will buy more, , and if it gets to .005 I will buy more. If the price continues to go down, I will continue to buy more as I will either be buying them from someone who bought much higher and got scared, or a MM that either doesn't know the value of what he's slinging, or needs to dump his "final" lots to get his $$ for his next "inventory". Either way, those who have the guts and/or the TRUST in Washington Mutual to BUY and HOLD, will get greatly rewarded in my humble opinion. They will continue to operate, whether it is under new ownership or upon emergence of chapter 11, and if shareholders were not rewarded, there is not a chance in hell that they would ever get someone to invest in them again.



I feel that this situation warrants careful consideration so that you can make your own opinion as to what you think is really going on. I personally believe it is something big!




Sincerely,

It doesn't matter who, what matters is what you think!!!!



TAKE ALL OF THE VARIABLES, KNOWN AND UNKOWN, PUT THEM INTO YOUR EQUATION, AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU COME UP WITH!



WHAT DID THE OTS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT WASHINGTON MUTUAL’S FINANCIAL POSITION BEFORE THEIR “COLLAPSE” ??? SURE LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY GOT A DEAL THAT WAS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE…………

http://files.ots.treas.gov/730021.pdf






RECENTLY TRADED OPTIONS??????



http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/options/default.asp?Symbol=WAMUQ&Month=4&Year=2009



http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/options/default.asp?Symbol=WAMUQ



Short Squeeeeze : http://www.shortsqueeze.com/?symbol=wamuq

And the number of shorting days left is only getting shorter and will shortly be coming to a close. Hahahahaha!


Who's been buying ? : http://www.otcbb.com/asp/tradeact_mv.asp?SearchBy=issue&Issue=wamuq&SortBy=volume&Month=10-1-2008


What funds are buying, selling, and holding: http://www.mffais.com/wm.html


How many assets/subsidiaries does Washington Mutual have? See list below and click the link:

Most Recent 8K Filing:





Chapter 11 Filing said they had $32Billion in Assets and I I would say that the true value is even higher than that.


WASHINGTON MUTUAL, INC. DIRECT AND INDIRECT SUBSIDIARIES

110 East 42nd Operating Company, Inc.
620-622 Pellhamdale Avenue Owners Corporation
Accord Realty Management Corporation
ACD2
ACD3
ACD4
Ahmanson Developments, Inc.
Ahmanson GGC LLC
Ahmanson Insurance, Inc.
Ahmanson Land Company
Ahmanson Marketing, Inc.
Ahmanson Obligation Company
Ahmanson Residential 2
Ahmanson Residential Development
Bryant Financial Corporation
California Reconveyance Company
CCB Capital Trust IV
CCB Capital Trust IX
CCB Capital Trust V
CCB Capital Trust VI
CCB Capital Trust VII
CCB Capital Trust VIII
Clayton Blackbear, Inc.
Commercial Loan Partners L.P.
CRP Properties, Inc.
Dime Capital Partners, Inc.
Dime Commercial Corp.
Dime CRE, Inc.
Dime Mortgage of New Jersey, Inc.
ECP Properties, Inc.
The E-F Battery Accord Corporation
F.C. LTD.
FA California Aircraft Holding Corporation
FA Out-of-State Holdings, Inc.
Flower Street Corporation
Great Western FS Corporation
Great Western Service Corporation Two
H.F. Ahmanson & Company
H.S. Loan Corporation
Harmony Agency, Inc.
HCP Properties Holdings, Inc.
HCP Properties, Inc.
HFC Capital Trust I
HHP Investment, LLC
HMP Properties, Inc.
Home Crest Insurance Services, Inc.
HS Loan Partners LLC
Irvine Corporate Center, Inc.
Ladue Service Corporation
Long Beach Securities Corp.
Marion Insurance Company, Inc.
Marion Street, Inc.
Mid Country Inc.
Murphy Favre Housing Managers, Inc.
Murphy Favre Properties, Inc.
NAMCO Securities Corp.
Nickel Purchasing Company, Inc.
Norstar Mortgage Corp.
North Properties, Inc.
Pacific Centre Associates LLC
Pacoima Investment Fund LLC
PCA Asset Holdings LLC
Pike Street Holdings, Inc.
Plainview Inn, Inc.
Providian Bancorp Services
Providian Leasing Corporation
Providian Mauritius Investments LTD
Providian Services Corporation
Providian Services LLC
Providian Technology Services Private Limited
Reverse Exchange Corporation
Rivergrade Investment Corp.
Riverpoint Associates
Robena Feedstock LLC
Robena LLC
Savings of America, Inc.
Seafair Securities Holdings Corp.
Second and Union LLC
Seneca Funding (UK) Limited
Seneca Funding LLC
Seneca Funding Management LLC
Seneca Funding Trust
Seneca Holdings, Inc.
Seneca Newco LLC
Seneca Street, Inc.
Sivage Financial Services LLC
Snohomish Asset Holdings LLC
SoundBay Leasing LLC
Stockton Plaza, Incorporated
Strand Capital LLC
Sutter Bay Associates LLC
Sutter Bay Corporation
Thackeray Funding Corp.
Thackeray Funding Partners
Thackeray Holdings Corp.
University Street, Inc.
WaMu 1031 Exchange
WaMu Asset Acceptance Corp.
WaMu Capital Corp.
WaMu Insurance Services, Inc.
WaMu Investments, Inc.
Washington Mutual Asset Securities Corp.
Washington Mutual Bank
Washington Mutual Bank fsb
Washington Mutual Brokerage Holdings, Inc.
Washington Mutual Capital Trust 2001
Washington Mutual Community Development, Inc.
Washington Mutual Finance Group LLC
Washington Mutual Life Insurance Company of California, a Stock
Insurer
Washington Mutual Mortgage Securities Corp.
Washington Mutual Preferred Funding LLC
Washington Mutual Trade Service Limited
Washington Mutual-Seattle Art Museum Project Owners Association
Western Service Co.
WM Aircraft Holdings LLC
WM Asset Holdings Corp.
WM Citation Holdings, LLC
WM Enterprises & Holdings, Inc.
WM Funds Disbursements, Inc.
WM Marion Holdings LLC
WM Mortgage Reinsurance Company, Inc.
WM Specialty Mortgage LLC
WM Winslow Funding LLC
WMB St. Helens LLC
WMBFA Insurance Agency, Inc.
WMFS Insurance Services, Inc.
WMGW Delaware Holdings LLC
WMHFA Delaware Holdings LLC
WMI Investment Corp.
WMI Rainier LLC
WMICC Delaware Holdings LLC
WMRP Delaware Holdings LLC
Yellowstone Venture, Inc.


WAMUQ: WASHINGTON MUTUAL, INC. DIRECT AND INDIRECT SUBSIDIARIES ...

Chapter 11 Filing said they had $32Bil
in Assets and this looks good to me ...

WASHINGTON MUTUAL, INC. DIRECT AND INDIRECT SUBSIDIARIES

110 East 42nd Operating Company, Inc.
620-622 Pellhamdale Avenue Owners Corporation
Accord Realty Management Corporation
ACD2
ACD3
ACD4
Ahmanson Developments, Inc.
Ahmanson GGC LLC
Ahmanson Insurance, Inc.
Ahmanson Land Company
Ahmanson Marketing, Inc.
Ahmanson Obligation Company
Ahmanson Residential 2
Ahmanson Residential Development
Bryant Financial Corporation
California Reconveyance Company
CCB Capital Trust IV
CCB Capital Trust IX
CCB Capital Trust V
CCB Capital Trust VI
CCB Capital Trust VII
CCB Capital Trust VIII
Clayton Blackbear, Inc.
Commercial Loan Partners L.P.
CRP Properties, Inc.
Dime Capital Partners, Inc.
Dime Commercial Corp.
Dime CRE, Inc.
Dime Mortgage of New Jersey, Inc.
ECP Properties, Inc.
The E-F Battery Accord Corporation
F.C. LTD.
FA California Aircraft Holding Corporation
FA Out-of-State Holdings, Inc.
Flower Street Corporation
Great Western FS Corporation
Great Western Service Corporation Two
H.F. Ahmanson & Company
H.S. Loan Corporation
Harmony Agency, Inc.
HCP Properties Holdings, Inc.
HCP Properties, Inc.
HFC Capital Trust I
HHP Investment, LLC
HMP Properties, Inc.
Home Crest Insurance Services, Inc.
HS Loan Partners LLC
Irvine Corporate Center, Inc.
Ladue Service Corporation
Long Beach Securities Corp.
Marion Insurance Company, Inc.
Marion Street, Inc.
Mid Country Inc.
Murphy Favre Housing Managers, Inc.
Murphy Favre Properties, Inc.
NAMCO Securities Corp.
Nickel Purchasing Company, Inc.
Norstar Mortgage Corp.
North Properties, Inc.
Pacific Centre Associates LLC
Pacoima Investment Fund LLC
PCA Asset Holdings LLC
Pike Street Holdings, Inc.
Plainview Inn, Inc.
Providian Bancorp Services
Providian Leasing Corporation
Providian Mauritius Investments LTD
Providian Services Corporation
Providian Services LLC
Providian Technology Services Private Limited
Reverse Exchange Corporation
Rivergrade Investment Corp.
Riverpoint Associates
Robena Feedstock LLC
Robena LLC
Savings of America, Inc.
Seafair Securities Holdings Corp.
Second and Union LLC
Seneca Funding (UK) Limited
Seneca Funding LLC
Seneca Funding Management LLC
Seneca Funding Trust
Seneca Holdings, Inc.
Seneca Newco LLC
Seneca Street, Inc.
Sivage Financial Services LLC
Snohomish Asset Holdings LLC
SoundBay Leasing LLC
Stockton Plaza, Incorporated
Strand Capital LLC
Sutter Bay Associates LLC
Sutter Bay Corporation
Thackeray Funding Corp.
Thackeray Funding Partners
Thackeray Holdings Corp.
University Street, Inc.
WaMu 1031 Exchange
WaMu Asset Acceptance Corp.
WaMu Capital Corp.
WaMu Insurance Services, Inc.
WaMu Investments, Inc.
Washington Mutual Asset Securities Corp.
Washington Mutual Bank
Washington Mutual Bank fsb
Washington Mutual Brokerage Holdings, Inc.
Washington Mutual Capital Trust 2001
Washington Mutual Community Development, Inc.
Washington Mutual Finance Group LLC
Washington Mutual Life Insurance Company of California, a Stock
Insurer
Washington Mutual Mortgage Securities Corp.
Washington Mutual Preferred Funding LLC
Washington Mutual Trade Service Limited
Washington Mutual-Seattle Art Museum Project Owners Association
Western Service Co.
WM Aircraft Holdings LLC
WM Asset Holdings Corp.
WM Citation Holdings, LLC
WM Enterprises & Holdings, Inc.
WM Funds Disbursements, Inc.
WM Marion Holdings LLC
WM Mortgage Reinsurance Company, Inc.
WM Specialty Mortgage LLC
WM Winslow Funding LLC
WMB St. Helens LLC
WMBFA Insurance Agency, Inc.
WMFS Insurance Services, Inc.
WMGW Delaware Holdings LLC
WMHFA Delaware Holdings LLC
WMI Investment Corp.
WMI Rainier LLC
WMICC Delaware Holdings LLC
WMRP Delaware Holdings LLC
Yellowstone Venture, Inc.


http://xml.10kwizard.com/filing_raw.php?repo=tenk&ipage=5989352








Keep up to date with the Bankruptcy Hearings Daily: http://www.kccllc.net/wamu




WAMPQ SEC and Prospectus Info:


Series R, Trading as WAMPQ

Old symbol: WM.PRR, Issued 12-17-2007.
Outstanding: 3,000,000. Liquidation Value: $1,000
Interest Paid: 7.75%
On December 17, 2007, WMI issued 3,000,000 preferred convertible shares, at a price of $1,000, to raise approx $2.9B.
These were paying 7.75% interest.



Prospectus Summary:
Hint: Sometimes the circumstances surrounding the issuance of a stock are just as important as the prospectus that defines the issuance.

http://www.secinfo.com/dr643.uCc.htm


Full Prospectus :

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/933136/000095013407025552/v36537aexv4w1.htm




WAMKQ SEC and Prospectus Info: Here's the Prospectus and other info:

Series K, Trading as WAMKQ

Old symbol: WM.PRK, Issued 9-11-06

Outstanding: 20,000,000. Liquidation Value $25.

Interest Paid: Greater of 3 month LIBOR plus .70% or 4%.

Depository shares representing 1/40,000th of floating rate series K non-cumulative preferred stock, no par value.

Series K Perpetual Non-Cumulative Floating Rate Preferred Stock was originally issued at $1,000,000/share. 500 were issued.

SO, 500 x 40,000 = Number Outstanding: 20,000,000


Prospectus Link:


http://investors.wamu.com/interactive/lookandfeel/102028/V23402_WAMU_424b5_Clean_.pdf


http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/933136/000095013407025552/v36537aexv4w1.htm




WAHQE (formerly WAHUQ) = GOLD = Preferred Income Equity Redeemable Securities (PIERS)

Old Symbol: WAHCU (OTC BB). Issued 6-27-2001.
Outstanding: 8,713,925. Liquidation Value: $50.
Interest Paid: 5.375%.

PIERS units consisting of 5.375% trust preferred securities and warrants, due 07/01/41.
These were paying a quarterly dividend of .67/share. Last payment was on 7-31-08.


Prospectus: http://www.secinfo.com/dRqWm.4fT99.htm

Symbol Changes:
https://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=11/20/2008&mkt_ctg=OTCBB


Charts: Technical Analysis: http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=WAMUQ&num1=17&cobrand=&mode=stock


http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=wamuq




Who's pissed and who's gonna be in trouble?

http://www.live-pr.com/en/washington-mutual-investors-have-initiated-r1048224409.htm


http://www.i-newswire.com/pr224984.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aIL9gsK5wG40&refer=us




What does this remind you of ? CALPINE
Hold on WAMU stockholders. Just when you think you’ve been screwed with your pants on…………………

http://calpineshareholders.blogspot.com/2007/12/calpine-shareholders-say-bunk-to-san.html?showComment=1198109880000#c3160375621610203069


http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2008/01/28/daily76.html


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