"typical basher ploy" not quite 50M, the original article/post that i found on Panetta's board did not include the dateline. i did not attempt to "pass off" anything, i merely posted something far more credible than a hyper long's claim that "Urbie" owns 85% of the stock. please have THAT poster provide a link for that BS! btw, what are the A/S & O/S? if you posted the info, i missed it. tia!