All - Must read from HP Open each .pdf and search for "wave" - many hits and hugh implications :-) I feel and HP announcement is forthcoming. <a href="http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/downloads/FINAL_Enterprise%20WP-Security%20Manageability_4AA0-8657ENW.pdf" target="_blank">http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/downloads/FINAL_Enterprise%20WP-Security%20Manageability_4AA0-8657ENW.pdf</a> <a href="http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/downloads/4AA1-8478ENW_Sec_and_Man_wp.pdf" target="_blank">http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/downloads/4AA1-8478ENW_Sec_and_Man_wp.pdf</a> these URL's where found at this page (lots more to explore, but no more time) <a href="http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/cache/281822-0-0-225-121.html" target="_blank">http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/cache/281822-0-0-225-121.html</a> FlyFisher