Chrisau "Get the best chassis you can, the most HP a given engine can produce, the best aerodynamics, and a driver that can do more than turn left." No argument there. Would you address: "touch the wall/fellow car and you are fini"? In F-1 you are racing the track, not another car/driver...might as well address that also. F-1 has a lot of nice contributions to valve train development and aerodynamics...but not very exciting. ola