tc............Here's what windoze had to say after defrag; Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented 9 1,024 MB \WINDOWS\MEMORY.DMP 3 55 KB \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WBEM\Logs\WMIPROV.LOG 11 768 KB \WINDOWS\Prefetch\NTOSBOOT-B00DFAAD.pf 2 1.34 GB \UNDO\BACKUP.CAB 2 43 KB \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Symantec\LiveUpdate\Settings.LiveUpdate 3 43 KB \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Symantec\LiveUpdate\2.Settings.LiveUpdate 4 128 KB \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Symantec\Common Client\SETTINGS.BAK 2 48 KB \Documents and Settings\Chris\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\MSHist012004032020040321\INDEX.DAT 2 17 KB \Documents and Settings\Chris\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\8PE3SDI3\default[1].htm 3 187 KB \Documents and Settings\Chris\Application Data\Identities\{069EA2A0-E054-11D2-A26C-D9D5194DA01C}\Microsoft\Outlook Express\Outbox.dbx And here's what it has to say now; Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented 3 49 KB \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WBEM\Logs\WMIPROV.LOG 2 260 KB \Program Files\Myst\making.exe 2 4 MB \QUICKENW\QW.EXE 2 1.34 GB \UNDO\BACKUP.CAB 2 1 MB \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Symantec\LiveUpdate\Log.LiveUpdate 4 80 KB \Documents and Settings\Chris\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\INDEX.DAT 2 48 KB \Documents and Settings\Chris\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\MSHist012004032020040321\INDEX.DAT 3 384 KB \Documents and Settings\Chris\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\INDEX.DAT The wide red stripe is still there and doesn't seem to have changed. ???????????????????????????????