Yep, which is why next gen needs to happen. You get a lot of the pop of now ragged edge parts in mainline parts probably after a whole hop / skip Intel cycle. All I want is a consumer grade quad core with 32MB cache per core on a 1600Mhz bus ... oh, and RAIDed SSD's, as well. Maybe next year. Although, if I could get the SSD's at non-nosebleed prices, I'd do that in a flash. rr