Bird, I haven't seen them. I am slammed with new clients and appointments here at NAMM. This is much more important than my investment in SLS. Ask the self proclaimed King of Shorts, as he can't form a proper sentence or spell maybe he can speak. I love these people that show up after the fact to claim they made the call, not sure where they come from but like the foam on waste water they rise. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. 98