Question about ACE, Bruce. Just don't run it in "Expert" mode. It will bite you Ace seems so easy to use. Periodically I just run the Wizard with all 4 options checked. Wasn't even aware of an "Expert" mode, unless I have just a standard version. Mine is ACE Optimizer Utilities, v2.3.0 I browsed thru the options and didn't see any Expert mode option. Am I missing something or were you talking about something else? Borealis