Chance to see.....serious discussion? Yes they clearly see that the future lies in managing keys from TPM,FDE & Danbury......not software encryption key management. Dell bundles/offers Wave's software for TPM & FDE key management....they offer Utimaco's software for encryption. NEC bundles/offers Wave's software for TPM & FDE key management.....they offer Safeboot's software for encryption. You posted this......... "This is the whole point as to why the software encryption companies are suddenly in the catbird seat" Seriously.....how did you work that out? Doma.