wynsurf.. I may be off by a couple of Mill. I don't track this penny like I used to. Check my old posts. The O/S is over 2B+ Someone had posted the O/S recently at over 2.5B+ So 3B is around the corner to me considering the outstanding CDs. Suggest calling the TA and posting the figure. It can only go up until the VKB takes the world by storm.