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Re: Bob Zumbrunnen post# 9173

Friday, 01/11/2002 11:29:21 AM

Friday, January 11, 2002 11:29:21 AM

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This piqued my interest


100+ to 1, and the one was always an "angel" that never stepped out of line. Chances of that are pretty slim indeed. Even the hardiest of egos with lash out when face with that kind of onslaught. Look at some of the minority responses when faced with a just a few opponents here at IHUB. Granted the original "offense" may have been "lying about the company" but I am sure I am not alone in disbelieving the innocence of the naysayers as regards TOU.
However, in your second paragraph you reveal the real reason for the departure of the multitude. You committed the unforgivable sin for an administrator. You decided who was "right" and who was "wrong". Your decisions on suspensions therefore became tainted by the rightness or wrongness of the users opinion and you allowed those you deemed "correct" to slide on violations of the TOU while holding those deemed "wrong" to a very strict standard.
An Admin *must* remain neutral on the issue of right and wrong except as defined by the TOU. then regardless of a users position on an issue the TOU will be fairly and justly enforced.
On another note...
I am somewhat peeved by this notion that megalomaniacal moderators are a "widespread problem" here at IHUB. It is simply not true and is a slap in the face not only to the many hardworking honest moderators here but to Matt as well (Matt is also hardworking and honest).
I think this illusion of IHUB being "Touter's Heaven" because it uses moderators for individual boards is ludicrous. What I find even more troubling though is although those who oppose a "promoter" moderating a board, they seem to fully support the idea of a basher having a moderators position. That is a double standard.
Are there "promoters" here at IHUB? Sure, and they are at all of the other message sites too. So are bashers.

You were responding to this question:
>>What's the easiest thing to do? Get rid of the one person, doesn't matter who's right or wrong.

A proper admin would be correct in removing the "one" if the "one" violated the TOU, regardless of whether the "one" was right or wrong. The minute the Admin begins deciding enforcement issues based on who is right or wrong, or who is an asset or potential asset to the community, he ceases to be a admin and becomes a very powerful user, a dictator, deciding what is right or wrong for everyone.
The folks that started IHUB wanted to get away from that. It is an easy trap to fall into, Let's all hope Matt can avoid it. In fact let's all do our best to help that trap from springing.
Matt has stated he is embarking on a new, stricter, more consistent enforcement policy. Let's see if that makes a difference in how IHUB is perceived before we go overhauling it's structure.



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