Artguy Thursday, 10/25/07 10:46:09 AM Re: allnumbers post# 12915 Post # of 34906 Exactly. We should remember that the G's have spent a lifetime dealing with car companies and others. They have done the presentations, been in the meetings, know how the prep, shipping and testing is done. They have been there from the wooden mockups to torture testing by company people who are frantic to make the Gleasman gizmo fail. That experience has gone from dead ends to success, while sailing through an industry that is turning itself inside out. This isn't the first time at the rodeo. They, more than most, know the stakes involved with showing something that isn't ready or that doesn't perform as claimed. In fact I think it's a safe bet that anything from Torvec will actually OUTperform stated specs by a comfortable margin. There isn't a Torvec specialist hovering around the IVT at NASA or looking over the Z's pit crew. They built the stuff, they tested it and they shipped it knowing what it would do. There are minimal standards a user has to meet, like using the correct fluid in the differential, but once you do that, you have something that is significantly better than conventional technology. Certainly auto execs who have dealt with the Gleasmans over the years know this. People new to the company can look at their record, make a few calls, and look at what they've done in the past 2 years. The patents are in place, the finances are under control, the facilities are getting ready, and the products are running in the shops at Houston and on the track. This is a good time for us, not where it should be or where it will be, but further along than many would have thought possible. I think the glass is more than half full and will soon be overflowing. IMO.