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Re: sackmeister post# 41321

Friday, 05/04/2007 12:36:07 PM

Friday, May 04, 2007 12:36:07 PM

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RE:<<<Two problems with your theory:
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One, with theability to make more biofuel per bushel using a catalyst than anyone else and the green credits, green certs etc offsetting costs as well as selling the biogas and fertilizer to also offset costs, USSE has a better chance to make a profit with their plan.
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Second, even if their electricity costs more than some other sources, many are willing to pay a premium if its for a good cause, helping the environment etc. I know currently I have choices in electricity as well as many other choices I make in homes, cars, food etc., I don't always choose the cheapest. If there is some added benefit, others will pay more for "green energy".>>>

For "One," do the calculation yourself with ALL of the energy from the soybeans and add in REC's. Unless you're suggesting the fertilizer or biogas component is worth significantly more than the portion used for "biofuel", the numbers don't make sense. Also, USSE can't produce more oil than anyone else using pyrolysis. Mr. Rivera just talks up the oil he gets. Look at http://www.btgworld.com/technologies/pyrolysis.html for a fairly typical yield/etc....

For "Second," the premium people are willing to pay is in the form of green tags. I already added in the high side of typical REC's into my numbers. They still can't pay for the soybeans. Do the numbers yourself and see.