ahh -- the personal attacks well dd i'm not surprised you disagree with me i just read the boards and observe the patterns which here on ihub (and most MBs) have been "enlightening" in their own right... to me the system is broken on all levels -- when they make more than a token attempt to clean it up let alone fix it -- perhaps i'll be persuaded all i see is a lot of foot dragging but then money is a powerful motivator to keep things status quo.. all jmo 4kids