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Monday, 05/13/2024 1:43:34 PM

Monday, May 13, 2024 1:43:34 PM

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More Information Emerges About Saturday’s Car Crash That Killed 3, Critically Injured 3

The tragic incident unfolded at approximately 2:38 a.m. when a Tesla Model 3 veered off the road and slammed into an unoccupied building in the 2300 block of Foothill Boulevard at Vista Ave., according to Pasadena Police Lt. Anthony Russo.

The Tesla, carrying six occupants westbound, was traveling at least double the speed limit when the driver ran a red light and lost control, police told told local tv news.


Anyone that has seen video of an out of control Tesla will realize thats what this appears to be. In fact, heres a video of a similar incident. Except this Tesla was being parked when it suddenly took off. The driver, a professional truck driver, tried repeatedly to apply the brakes (photo evidence of brakes lights). The driver even tried to apply Tesla's ebrake repeatedly with no luck. He eventually crashed the Tesla to stop it. Tesla China confirmed that that driver did indeed press the ebrake or park button 4 times.


https://youtu.be/6Kf3I_OyDlI

In an interview, the driver of this Tesla claims the brakes would not respond and that he tried to use the emergency brake while speeding out of control.

In an interview with local news outlet Dahe Daily, the 55-year-old driver, Zhan, who said he was a former truck driver, said he tried pressing the brake pedal and the emergency parking brake button, but with no effect


This picture clearly shows brake lights on. I wonder if this was one of the times Mr Zhan tried to engage the ebrake?

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/what-made-a-tesla-model-y-speed-up-for-26-km-until-killing-two-people-in-china_5.jpg

Tesla China released the following information confirming that Mr. Zhan did indeed apply the emergency brake but data doesnt show he applied the brake. Take note that ebrake application also failed to slow this Tesla down.

Tesla China denied the family member’s claims, noting that data from the ill-fated Model Y showed that the accelerator pedal was depressed deeply during the incident. Tesla stated that the Park button was indeed pressed during the vehicle’s final drive four times, but only briefly. Previous tests from Tesla owners indicated that pressing Park for an extended period of time while the vehicle is in motion would stop the car


The data shows the accelerator pressed yet the driver says they applied the brakes and ebrake, with the ebrake part being confirmed. So if the driver applied the ebrake you have to ask youself why would he lie about also applying the brakes? If he applied the brakes as well as the ebrake like claimed, that means you cannot trust the data from Teslas data recorder. Why? Because the data the recorder records reflects what the car actually does and not necessarily what the driver tells it to do. In fact this is part of a recent submission to the NHTSA by Dr. Belt.

New information received by the NHTSA shows that sudden unintended acceleration events with Tesla EVs were real and not driver errors. The report explains in detail what caused the cars to accelerate even when the accelerator pedal was not pressed.


What's worse is that the incorrectly increased sensor signals will be sent via the CAN bus to the vehicle logs, causing Tesla and NHTSA to conclude that the driver caused the sudden increase in torque by stepping on the accelerator pedal. But in this case, the sudden acceleration was caused not by the driver stepping on the accelerator pedal but by a random superposition of a negative-going voltage spike (which is about 100 microseconds long), and the sampling time of the analog-to-digital converter (which is about 10 microseconds long). This random superposition explains the low occurrence rate of sudden acceleration in Tesla vehicles




https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/what-made-a-tesla-model-y-speed-up-for-26-km-until-killing-two-people-in-china_5.jpg

Quote Sources:
https://www.pasadenanow.com/main/more-information-emerges-about-saturdays-car-crash-that-killed-3-critically-injured-3
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/fatal-high-speed-tesla-crash-china-police-probe.amp
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/breaking-nhtsa-petition-shows-tesla-s-sudden-unintended-acceleration-is-real-and-curable-217525.htm

Could it be that there is a strategy to distract people away from looking at the basic data?
Is all this an exercise to create more and more forum verbiage to drown out any serious discussion of evidence?

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