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Re: Killercliff post# 188829

Tuesday, 04/30/2024 10:54:40 AM

Tuesday, April 30, 2024 10:54:40 AM

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Optica meeting on LPO - couple of notes on Polymers

Andy of Arista recognized Polymers but said he has no clue when the modules will be available to him

NLM CTO said that NLM Polymers won't be ready for Sampling until 2026!! As reported here previously MANY times, NLM is miles behind LWLG in Polymer development program!!

Too bad Lebby wasn't in this meeting, especially seeing Mark L's post calling him out on LinkedIn, cowardly to call someone out in a meeting Lebby was NOT even attending!!

LWLG/Lebby have 200Gb modulators capable of mass production on 200mm Wafers at large Foundries TODAY and now deeply engaged with several of the top Tier 1's in negotiating commercial Customer Acceptance and Ramp in 2024!!!

here teddybear, based on marky boy's recommendation you are touting here I wrote this sample discussion overheard by a fly on the wall in the BOD meeting rooms,

Google/Amazon/Nvidia etc CEO talking to Chief Engineer of Photonics

CEO, so what do you think we should use for our true next-gen internet transmissions solution?

ENG, well we've been working hard to help you decide the BEST solution and here's what we've got, Mark L says TFLN is going to be the winner of all the materials out there

CEO, ok, so then TFLN must have all those things we spoke about right? Is TFLN incredibly small so as to free up space in the Transceiver box so we don't have to implement Co-Packaged Optics any time within the next several generations?
ENG, well no, actually LWLG Polymers fit 120 devices in the same space TFLN fits only 8, but Mark L says TFLN is going to be the winner of all the materials out there

CEO, ok, well then TFLN must be using the least power right?
ENG, well no, actually LWLG Polymers is the ONLY solution operating at sub-1Volt that ELIMINATE the power hungry and expensive Driver Chip, but Mark L says TFLN is going to be the winner of all the materials out there

CEO, ok, well then TFLN must have the lowest Optical Losses and will save us money on requiring less DSP usage right?
ENG, well no, actually LWLG Polymers has MUCH LOWER Optical Losses, but Mark L says TFLN is going to be the winner of all the materials out there

CEO, ok well TFLN must be SUPER COMPATIBLE with Standard Silicon Foundries right?
ENG, well no, actually LWLG Polymers are SUPER COMPATIBLE with Standard Silicon Foundries and we are not sure whether TFLN can be "shoehorned in" to a Silicon Foundry PDK yet but there are quite a few companies trying to do that right now, but Mark L says TFLN is going to be the winner of all the materials out there

CEO, ok, well I've heard that TFLN does not yet have a 200Gbs device capable of being mass produced at a large SiPh Foundry on 200mm Wafers?
ENG, sorry sir, NO they don't yet, but they are working really hard on that right now!!

CEO, what about LWLG Polymers, can they mass produce a 200Gbs device on 200mm Wafers at a large Foundry
ENG, well YES sir, they just got done demonstrating perfect Open Eyes of that very device at OFC to MANY Tier1's along with Research Analysts, etc, it was VERY IMPRESSIVE indeed, I was there!!! BUT may I remind you, Mark L says TFLN is going to be the winner of all the materials out there

CEO, well I actually know Micael Lebby and I know of all his credentials in leadership of the Photonics Industry, but I really hadn't considered what you are telling me about Mark L telling everyone that TFLN is the way to go, interesting, well I've come to my decision
ENG, well did I convince you? Are you going with TFLN as Mark L says is going to be the winner?

CEO, no actually I'm going with Lebby/LWLG and YOU'RE FIRED!!!
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