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Re: Scooter1 post# 37520

Saturday, 02/24/2007 1:07:53 PM

Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:07:53 PM

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Scooter1,
Back on 9/25/2006 1:13:53 PM we started with the "zipped" idea. This followed the .01 spike in Aug. Click on my name, Nez, and type "zipped" in the "Search this members posts" box.

9/25/2006 was the first time we gave this a shot. Putting GTC orders based on the theory that if the shares were tied up in large GTC orders, the MMs couldn't "short or naked short" the shares.

Then if you check the "Monthly Share Volume Report" on

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/tradeact_mv.asp?SearchBy=issue&Issue=ATWT&SortBy=volume&Month=1...

for Aug. which is the month of the spike and then check for September, the following month when we started the "zipped" idea,

the total share volume was
Of this 610,787,603.
Nite did: 258,641,455
UBSS did: 167,980,801
Combined: 426,622,256 This is almost 1/5 of the total and the result was a continuous drop in pps until the end of Sept when they threw us a bone or possibly a head fake and allowed the pps to drift to .007 on 9/26 and 9/27.

Total Share Volume for Oct. was
249,754,592
At this point, ETRD joined the fray and between NITE, UBSS and ETRD did
241,828,911 combined volume.

What it all means I am not sure but my opinion and suspicion is that the posts about how MMs can orchestrate a situation that "appears" to be dilution by the company when in fact it is them all along. IMO, this is nothing more than psychological warfare and when you add to this the fact that the MMs are reading the boards and have a fairly accurate idea about what the "Longs" are thinking they can plan and play our emotions that much more effectively.
Judging by the reaction that the "zipped" campaign evoked, I would say it caused a situation where the MMs pulled out the big guns.

Now we see in Feb an increase in volume, general interest and pps and suddenly, this VNDM shows up pounding the bid and holding the pps down in what appears to be a concerted effort with other MMs. Is this another "Big Gun effort?" Don't know but as a syndical person at this point and after reading the little I have about "them," IMO, yes, when things started looking up, MMs brought out another "Big Player."

IMO, if my math is right and the reports of "huge short interest" are correct, then what else can one conclude other than the MM's are in the process of breaking our resolve and at the same time setting up Mr. Wiley and Company to take the rap which will ensure the MMs continued ability to fluctuate the pps and dupe any new investors that come in by taking up the shares tired or disillusioned hands drop.
Remember, there has to be a ratio of supply and demand for the MMs to make the market and IMO, the last thing the MMs want is to kill the "Golden Goose" which is a rare company that can attract new investors into a solid, high potential stock but where the MMs control the resolve and emotions of any unprepared investor by playing "mind fork."

What is the solution? IMO, I have to agree with the "read" from the Dragon site that takes the position that the really solid longs are the ones who cause the MMs the most pain. But they have to wait until circumstances develop such as the one contained in the last PR where Mr. Wiley stated, "I am very anxious for the company to move itself beyond the Pink Sheets, but my primary concern right now is for the company to become totally transparent whether we're on the Pinks or BB. This process has taken longer than expected but we are determined to get it done. The best thing for the company is that we will find ourselves reporting on the Pinks and can easily transition to the next level provided the overall financial strength warrants it," said President/CEO Alex Wiley.


IMO, there are many things we have heard about and are waiting for which could precipitate a situation in which "the overall financial strength warrants it," (a transition to another board, cupid change, name change who knows,) but the fact that Mr. Wiley doesn't want to spend the money in the bank, makes me anyway, feel like he is not going to commit the reserves until it is thoroughly unavoidable which indicates IMO, that things are not as dire as those controlling the "smoke and mirrors" want us to believe. Having that money in the bank also provides options that wouldn't be available if it were committed too early. I seem to remember that there is an investor who is willing to commit a large amount if the pps comes near less than .001. Together with that and the money in the bank if I was an MM, it would cause me concern.
As for your original question Scooter, history here has shown that when we tied up large amounts of shares with GTC orders, it caused a major reaction from the MMs.
IMO, it didn't work due to the fact that the MMs scared the heck out of enough people that they let go of their shares and then those shares were used to replenish the MMs "ammo dumps." Could it have worked? IMO, YES but the longs would have to not continually watch the ticker for the entire day to avoid what IMO are false appearances of doom.

One last theory, IMO, the "blackout" is due to the fact that in addition to the MMs knowing our (investors) feelings, PR's put out by the company, gave the MMs an idea of what the company was doing and what their plan of attack was. Add to this, insiders who got fired and leaked questionable information to those who posted it here and now, not only do the MMs know the longs feelings but also what the company's plans were. So the company just went silent. This is all conjecture on my part and I hope to at least stimulate others to come up with alternatives or if this is at all accurate, then hopefully inspire the longs to "bear down" and wait and not pay attention to machinations and daily fluctuations of the pps.

All JMO,
Nez


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