TPP, Surwin makes some good points too, I am glad he researched further and provided his DD as well. Knowledge is power and I like to take in all the info regardless if it is from a believer or from a non believer. I personally want nothing more than to see VLDI succeed, it would make me a multi millionaire. But I am also a realist and I do see where Surwin is coming from as well. It is tough to believe in Validian when we do not have the so called back room knowledge that you seem to have. And I get you can't disclose more info due to disclosure agreements so please take that in account when we post our feelings of all this being nothing. My hopes in this company have been weaned down to trying to trust what you say, and I am not one to take the word of a stranger. I know you always so do your DD but I will be honest it is hard to find any real info with substance for Validian, at least recent info. I have said it before and will say it again, "I sure hope you are right, I would definitely enjoy spending my millions!"