@Dannolicious @RBJasonBond @TheParakleet @jotu
Sorry you are so upset about my posts. But it quite clear to me that the brand means everything. It's the only thing we own. It has nothing to do with price, only to do with where revenue is directed .
Let me try to explain this to this group again. When 106C came out, it was not patented. This is highly unusual. Companies generally protect their IP vigorously. The excuse at the time was that it didn't matter because the machines and process are patented. But the fact that 106C was not patented, means it is not legally part of the PLA. So we have no specific, legal rights to this formula. Yes the machines are patented, but they are all located in China. So how do we have any claim to all this supposed expansion going on over there? It isn't our money buying these machines, so it is reasonable to assume we have no legal rights to them. So Li uses his machines to make an unpatented material and sells it in the US as "amorphous alloy" or something generic, or covers it with an NDA. What right do we have to any revenue? I have good reason to believe the hinges for Motorola Razor, Samsung Z fold 5, and (according to Josh) OnePlus Open. And we have seen zero revenue. We know Huawei is selling their Watch in Europe and it has "liquid metal" (multiple models for a couple years now) and we have seen zero revenue. You have to be willfully ignorant at this point not to understand that unless "Liquidmetal" brand is used, we will not see revenue. This seems the obvious conclusion to me, and feel free to prove otherwise.
Now, right around the time 106C came out, Josh stated that Apple asked Li for exclusive rights to his material. But he turned them down (Huawei made same request which he also turned down). I don't know how Josh knew this, but he has been a credible source. If Apple wanted exclusive rights, then they had to be ready to give serious money to Li to build the infrastructure. Which would have made this company worth a hell of a lot more than now. But instead Li turned to the CCP government for funding. This changes the entire picture. Since most of the current "mass production" infrastructure is owned by the CCP, Li doesn't have the same control. And the companies in China are certainly going to prosper long before we see anything. I'm sure Li still wants to make $ for his LQMT investment, but it is a different path now .
Now, regarding the Liquidmetal brand (or you can say trademark), why isn't Liquidmetal selling their trademarked product outside of guitar pins? Seems like they should be able to sell more, right? So what's holding it back? Eontec claims to have mass production in place according to their Q&A. Why no sales and revenue? We've been asking this for years now. It has made no logical sense outside of the reason that Apple is holding us back as they plan to use it. And they very well may. But, it has become clear that this has become our only path to revenue. Forget all other options, at least until Apple uses the Liquidmetal brand. And that is a big if as it is obvious how difficult it is to get into their ecosystem. We know that Apple protected the brand a few years ago which is a sign they are still interested. But CIP just let the trademark for CE & auto expire. Not sure the significance of this but generally not positive. I'm sure Li is still working with Apple and trying to get in, but it will not be easy. And I really hope Apple doesn't choose to buy Li's material and not use the brand. That would be disastrous. If we start seeing more and larger orders from other companies for "Liquidmetal", then I would be worried. But the fact that the pinions were not even announced or made public (outside of the trademark filing) tells me they are still banking on Apple. So forget about hinges, forget about all the non-apple products people are speculating about. No revenue to us untill Apple uses our brand. That alone will make the stock price over $1, which will make TC happy. And probably why he signed that agreement. I am still cautiously optimistic, but more importantly, realistic about how this company can succeed.
