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I wasn't expected to be comforted. LOL Also, I definitely understand the impossibilities of vaccinating our wild birds, just as impossible as hermetically sealing our commercial poultry. That's not a reality or economically feasible.

I'm also not sure where you mixed up me with someone else when you stated;

Cattle have been vaccinate for quite some time, which is probably why you refuse to eat beef:

I just happen to be doing some accounting and data entry work today for the large family ranch I'm associated with and invested in. Our beef cover 100's of square miles of private and public land, part owner of freezer storage property and local store. I rarely eat any beef that's not grass fed and from the ranch directly from the butcher and since Covid I don't go to restaurants anymore other than some take out, but sure in heck don't get any meat from the major stores anymore.

All ranches have some poultry, but a couple of years ago the ranch started raising chickens for commercial use both for the bird and eggs, there is a difference between laying hens and consumption birds. So this is front burner stuff here for the ranch and proper land management has always been top priority.

The vaccination protocols for the animals are extremally intensive to put it lightly, getting more costly and labor intensive as years go by. And if you want to export any meat, boy the can of worms that entails. There is a long list of protocols for all meats, pork, beef, and poultry. A lot of protocols that big Corp agriculture gets away with violating or getting around with their power and money, yet demanding every little i dotted and t crossed when it comes to the less powerful smaller ranchers and farmers, the lower hanging fruit and unable to pay off the politicians and inspectors.

A couple of years ago about the time the big meat producers were writing Emergency declarations for Trump and this country for a shortage of meat when it was the exact opposite, no shortage, it was to save all the profits from the ever increasing exports to China that was happening at the time, a big majority of the profits done with illegal workers. Anyway, an employee neglected to mark down one number and check mark in one area of the amassing paper work required in the packing operation. The particular process was done and we could prove it by other documentation, but no, thousands of pounds of pig had to be disposed of and all the time, labor, and costs raising and butchering the pork was disposed of as well.

Your list of vacs is quite short, and doesn't really tell the tale of involvement of the vaccine process, which is endless. It definitely is not as easy peasy as it sounds. Different breeds, different ages, timing, stress factors, maternal pass through immunities, all have different processes and vaccines and effects, just to name a few. Vaccinated doesn't necessarily mean immunized, and if the timing required conflicts with stress factors like drought, fires, and believe it or not, predators even like a wild boar problem killing some stray calves will have effect on the efficiency of the vaccines. And like all vaccines, waning efficiencies are a continued problem with newer viruses and diseases or newer versions of them. Then there is the continued increase of stress factors caused by environmental conditions, those conditions really are putting a lot of danger (and expense) in our food production, both meat and vegetable.

The biggest cause is the worlds population increase over time and really started to massively create this environmental hazard we call earth with the industrial revolution, and became a world of oil. The world is just one big lab experiment, and like smaller contained lab experiments if you combine a bunch of organisms and hazard chemicals together and then try to live in that environment, your going to end up with more human damage and defects, more disease, more death and unlivable conditions. That's just science. As much science as if your freezer or fridge goes out, your food spoils and bad organisms grow. When we destroy the polar ice (earths refrigeration), humans are going to spoil and bad organisms will be grown. If you stay in a closed finite space as your garage with the car running, you will die. Earths atmosphere and it's environment that we depend on is also a finite space.