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Re: sts66 post# 396906

Thursday, 01/05/2023 9:05:38 AM

Thursday, January 05, 2023 9:05:38 AM

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I beg to differ. However, I can see your point, there's articles out there that support your point. All I can say is there's always under currents in the energy markets. deals done behind closed doors or on golf courses. Lets compare notes; I worked for an AZ Utility. California Utes had excess Renewables (Photovoltaic and Wind), so much so that they paid (my usta) both utilities in the Phoenix and region to take it the excess renewables. At least that's what my management presented to us during "All Hands" meetings. "It's complicated."

Look up a guy named Tom Styers (Billionaire) who is a proponent of Renewable Energy (California). He pushed a Proposition 127 (AZ elections 2020) that would have (if passed) required AZ utilities to increase their Renewables (Solar, wind) to 50% of baseload by 2030. There were dire consequences involved if this Proposition would have succeeded, loss of jobs for one.
https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/california-electricity-data/2021-total-system-electric-generation

I just got back from a trip to the Caribbean, Aruba, Curacao, Bonaire etc. On these islands (Aruba and Curacao being desert islands) and the other islands we visited, relied on Wind generation. They also use Desalination (Reverse osmosis) to supply each island with water. They pump and store (using gravity for pressure), as I saw quite a number of water storage (tank farms). Albeit electricity and water are very expensive there. So, it is feasible to produce water using renewables.

So, if my notes seem plausible, why wouldn't California build more Renewables if that's what they want? Heck, they shut down their Coal and Nukes except for Diablo Canyon. United Arab Emirates (UAE) are utilizing Nuclear Plants to desalinate ocean water. California has the whole Pacific Ocean to utilize? Keeps your hands off our water (Colorado). :D)

Let's end our discussion here, as I don't want the babies to start crying and whining.
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