D-Block,post #s 12856 and 12854 Below, please find the reference sites used to answer the question asked in post # 12831. The first site below answers questions about Mr Milligans Business ventures last year: <A HREF="http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=ECFL" target="_blank">http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=ECFL</A> These sites(a,b,c) are in regards to ecarflys registration with MN Secretary of State (SOS). Just follow the path a,b,c. MN SOS records/ecarfly goto>>>>> a. <A HREF="http://da.sos.state.mn.us/minnesota/corp_inquiry-find.asp?:Norder_item_type_id=10&sm=7" target="_blank">http://da.sos.state.mn.us/minnesota/corp_inquiry-find.asp?:Norder_item_type_id=10&sm=7</A> b. <A HREF="http://da.sos.state.mn.us/minnesota/corp_inquiry-find.asp?:Ssearch_Parm=&filename=" target="_blank">http://da.sos.state.mn.us/minnesota/corp_inquiry-find.asp?:Ssearch_Parm=&filename=</A> c . <A HREF="http://da.sos.state.mn.us/minnesota/corp_inquiry-entity.asp?:nfiling_number=1807118-2&entity_type_id=DC&:Nsession_id=&:Ndocument_number=0&filename=-760050872.txt&pgcurrent=6&:Norder_item_type_id=10&:Ssearch_Parm=ecarfly" target="_blank">http://da.sos.state.mn.us/minnesota/corp_inquiry-entity.asp?:nfiling_number=1807118-2&entity_typ...</A> It's interesting to note that eCarfly is inactive (see a.) Also very interesting is the fact that eCarfly changed its name to Complete Auto Inc. on 4/17/06 PRIOR to Avalon 5/06 and Ergonomics 7/06. I didn't make this stuff up, nor did I use someone elses research. This took less than 10 minutes to research. All public records. I assumed you long time share holders knew all this information prior to buying your positions. I found this info the day after I asked this board for recommendations as to entry point. My interpretation of the information is either poor management or a scheme. So, I decided not to get involved. I am not telling anyone what to do, only expression why I didn't get involved. You are right though, I should have posted these links for the person who posted #12831. I hope this is helpful. Good luck to all.