Good to know, thanks for that. I'm all for systems too :) I am old enough to remember the pre-internet days. Back then "retail traders" (there were not a lot of them back then) camped out at their broker's business and watched the numbers come across on a paper tape. There was one fellow in my smallish town who supposedly had created a "system" for stock picking and timing and he was considered a bit of a savant. You could find him every market day from open to close at the brokerage watching the tape and placing his orders. As I recall there was only one stock broker in the town.